Police Violence

Discussion in 'Politics and Religion' started by Kel Varnsen, Jun 5, 2018.

  1. LVG

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    I think I understand; you're mixing two legal terms - probable cause and reasonable suspicion, into reasonable cause. That's where I was getting confused.

    I agree with you that the modern legal trend seems to be merging probable cause and reasonable suspicion, seemingly finding that reasonable suspicion satisfies probable cause. It does not.

    [edit] Waiver of rights is a real problem. Police have developed some very effective techniques to get people to waive their rights. The only solution is to educate people about their rights.
     
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    We agree about the above.

    The way probable cause and reasonable suspicion is wrongly being merged, especially in regard to vehicle stops (searches), is concerning. As you note many people do not know their rights.

    Now law enforcement is allowed warrantless access to drug access databases that contain drug history for those who have been prescribed drugs such as opioids. It's conceivable that law enforcement can come knocking at one's door using these data bases as probable cause to issue a warrant.

    Here is an example of something like this happening:


    https://www.wcpo.com/longform/so-you-think-prescriptions-are-private
     
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    The erosion of the 4th amendment under the guise of safety and the public good is disgusting
     
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    As a union man, these police unions make me sick (in general).
     
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    Shame on the union. There’s standing up for your membership, but only if it’s warranted. These officers shouldn’t be afforded the union’s defense.
     
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    Louisiana Sheriff's Deputy Coerced Mother To Perform Oral Sex On 1-Year-Old, Police Say

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