Over-hyped guys you don’t like

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  1. Krangthebrain

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    Agree on all accounts. I weigh significantly more than Smith and I'm only 5'11. Even if I cut down to very low body fat, I would weigh more than him.

    Every time I've stood next to NFL defenders it seems obvious my frame couldnt take hits from guys that big. I would worry about Smith taking shots. He's too thin.
     
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    Did defenses just not realize he’s slight and decide not to bully him? Especially after Waddle went down you’d think he’d get the Steph Curry treatment and have three guys ganging up beating the crap out of him....
     
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    College guys can't run him down as easy or get in range for the hit. It's a different game when Isaiah Simmons runs a 4.39 and outweighs you by 72 lbs. (Man, writing down those numbers is scary. I'm 170 lbs and I can't imagine what would happen to me if I got hit by someone 68 lbs heavier. I'd probably explode.)
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Yeah I recall meeting Vance Johnson back in the day. He was a “smaller” speed receiver. Even at just 5’11 185 lbs he was just ripped. I was shocked a receiver looked so monstrous. The Slim Reaper ain’t that.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    There’s a reason lots of college players - even from the best programs - can’t cut it in the nfl. Everyone is bigger, faster, stronger, and just better. What works at the college level may translate to the NFL but only to a more limited extent, and usually not at all.
     
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    I realize that just wondering why they didn’t beat up. Off the line or on run plays when he’s blocking... That’s a small frame even for college.
     
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    yes, but wouldnt you think that:

    with Waddle out, and
    playing in the SEC

    we would have seen at least a hint of being able to stop him by jamming at the line and being physical?

    instead, he goes out and puts up 117 / ~1,900 yards and 23 TDs. He was also at his best vs the best teams they faced.

    i think the worst case scenario is that Smith becomes an upper tier slot guy
     
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    Whatever happens to Smith will be a learning experience for everyone. Have there been any extremely underweight players who got 1st round, top 20 pick, hype in the past?
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    That’s why I say he makes me nervous in both directions. Some guys just defy the general rules. He could be that guy. His resume points in that direction. But 166 ...
     
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    Thats why Smith will probably not be picked that high. The risk-reward relation is just not there for most GMs.

    On the other hand, for teams with lots of draft capital (Miami, Carolina, Philly) picking him very high seems reasonable.
     
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    I'd rather someone else take the risk to find out. Especially considering every class is stacked at WR now.
     
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    When the Skins trained in Carlisle, PA, I had the opportunity to stand & chat with Lavar Arrington. I was a competing powerlifter earlier in my 20’s & 30’s. I tried to envision what it might be like if that dude hit me on a dead sprint. It was then when I came to grips with how big, how fast, how strong, and how fierce those dudes really are. And I was around 210 at the time.
     
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    Stout Hold onto the ball, Murray!

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    I visited there when I lived in the Harrisburg area. Maybe 2003? Got to chat with James Brown, who traveled in to cover the camp. Nice guy. Agreed on Arrington.
     
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    I’d draft Smitty over a guy like Zaven Collins easily.
     
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    i think this is total crap.

    people said the same things about Kyler.

    tyreek hill is almost the same size and is a top 5 WR.

    If you can produce at an elite level at Alabama you will do well in the nfl.
     

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