Town Drunk
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100% Everyone was juicing during that era, including pitchers. The league condoned it. They should all be in.Put Barry Bonds in while he is alive.
100% Everyone was juicing during that era, including pitchers. The league condoned it. They should all be in.Put Barry Bonds in while he is alive.
Bud Selig made the HOF off steroids100% Everyone was juicing during that era, including pitchers. The league condoned it. They should all be in.
Gambling did not enhance his stats. He earned those. That is the difference.He absolutely did, unfortunately he also earned his lifetime ban. I'm glad it's been reduced to just that.
since they banned Pete Rose the only MLB game I have ever watched was the DBacks vs Yankees when we won the series.
dont see any point in starting to watch now.
He earned that "F you." He signed off on his punishment and refused to acknowledge what he had done at the same time. F Pete Rose.I hope Pete Rose's kids say "thanks but no thanks". You didnt need Pete while he was alive...youre not going to profit off him now that he's dead. MLB could have done this a few years ago and let an 80 something year old Pete Rose actually see it...instead they did a final "F you" by waiting until he was dead.
Yeah, it wasn't Pete that was cheated, it was us baseball fans. And it was Pete that cheated us, not MLB. I agree with making it a lifetime punishment and I support making him eligible now that he's dead but again, that's for us fans.He earned that "F you." He signed off on his punishment and refused to acknowledge what he had done at the same time. F Pete Rose.
Just because he and others are eligible does not mean they will get voted in either.Yeah, it wasn't Pete that was cheated, it was us baseball fans. And it was Pete that cheated us, not MLB. I agree with making it a lifetime punishment and I support making him eligible now that he's dead but again, that's for us fans.
Over the course of their careers Williams was probably a better hitter. Bonds was probably better eventually, but we all know the story there.xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
If Barry had stayed clean, he would have been a HOFer and (probably) all-time great, anyway. The same for Clemens, ARod, and probably Manny Ramirez. They all would not have put up the same level of numbers, but still were A++ talents for their era. So they only have themselves to blame for the blacklist because it wasn't necessary for them to cheat.Over the course of their careers Williams was probably a better hitter. Bonds was probably better eventually, but we all know the story there.
However, Bonds was lightyears ahead as a baserunner and defensive player.
And they both had prickly personalities.