On paper...best Keim draft ever

[TheCardFan]

Not a high bar for sure but this was really good (on paper).

Ultimately, this draft will be judged by Rosen, Murray, Q, and Bosa.

 

[slanidrac16]

Somehow, someway he manage to pump a boatload of excitement into this team in one short off season. We will see if it all pans out but most of us won’t blast him for this draft.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I will be honest...

Just like every ex you wonder what could have been

I will wonder for a long time if adding this much offensive talent would have been enough to get Rosen to that QB 17 range .

 

[football karma]

I will be honest...

Just like every ex you wonder what could have been

I will wonder for a long time if adding this much offensive talent would have been enough to get Rosen to that QB 17 range .

ice cold......... LOL

 

[Chris_Sanders]

ice cold......... LOL

No I have said repeatedly that Rosen can win with talent. I just didn't trust the team to add that talent

So of course Keim has a good draft after trading him

 

[football karma]

i dunno about best ever, but a few key points that stood out to me:

Rd 2: classic best player vs need. I think Byron Murphy is a very high ceiling, high floor kind of player who will play for 10 years with his instincts and ball skills.

Very interested to see how the defense changes when picking on the opposite side of P2 isnt so easy.

I think the o-line choices there were tackles destined to be guards, maybe with their second teams

Rd 4: Great compliment to what you have already -- i have really like Hakeem Butler for while -- and again, the floor is a Jaron Brown, ceiling 2105 Mike Floyd .

 

[GatorAZ]

I hope you guys are right about Q > Bosa

 

[devilalum]

I hope you guys are right about Q > Bosa

Maybe Bosa will destroy the locker room with his politics.


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[Krangodnzr]

No I have said repeatedly that Rosen can win with talent. I just didn't trust the team to add that talent

So of course Keim has a good draft after trading him

I think upside is the difference.

Those of us who like Murray, think Murray can be a player who changes the way the QB position is viewed in the NFL.

My brother gave a good comp for Rosen's upside that I hadn't thought about....Andy Dalton...the good Andy Dalton.

One big red flag that I didnt catch for Rosen last year is that he wasn't really a winner in college. A good QB is good for at least 8 or 9 wins in college even if the supporting cast is subpar. Rosen didnt really elevate the Bruins much while he was there. If you think back to Cutler, that was the same red flag he had and he never really shook that in the pros either.

 

[BW52]

Maybe Bosa will destroy the locker room with his politics.


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He already apologized so everything should be PC.

 

[Brak]

Several Niner fans calling us out for an excellent draft...

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/192442-which-nfl-team-won-draft/

Now I gotta go read what they have to say for their own draft. They tend to be even more maniacal than the group here.

 

[devilalum]

He already apologized so everything should be PC.

Sure, but he’s a MAGA guy. We’ll see if he can keep a lid on it.


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[Ronin]

Several Niner fans calling us out for an excellent draft...

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/192442-which-nfl-team-won-draft/

Now I gotta go read what they have to say for their own draft. They tend to be even more maniacal than the group here.

Careful. They would eat their young if they could.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I think upside is the difference.

Those of us who like Murray, think Murray can be a player who changes the way the QB position is viewed in the NFL.

My brother gave a good comp for Rosen's upside that I hadn't thought about....Andy Dalton...the good Andy Dalton.

One big red flag that I didnt catch for Rosen last year is that he wasn't really a winner in college. A good QB is good for at least 8 or 9 wins in college even if the supporting cast is subpar. Rosen didnt really elevate the Bruins much while he was there. If you think back to Cutler, that was the same red flag he had and he never really shook that in the pros either.

I said Andy Dalton on Friday

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Several Niner fans calling us out for an excellent draft...

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/192442-which-nfl-team-won-draft/

Now I gotta go read what they have to say for their own draft. They tend to be even more maniacal than the group here.

Because it's an insanely good draft .

Look you can think whatever about PFF but the fact remains you got 5 guys in their top 50(!)

 

[Shane]

i dunno about best ever, but a few key points that stood out to me:

Rd 2: classic best player vs need. I think Byron Murphy is a very high ceiling, high floor kind of player who will play for 10 years with his instincts and ball skills.

Very interested to see how the defense changes when picking on the opposite side of P2 isnt so easy.

I think the o-line choices there were tackles destined to be guards, maybe with their second teams

Rd 4: Great compliment to what you have already -- i have really like Hakeem Butler for while -- and again, the floor is a Jaron Brown, ceiling 2105 Mike Floyd .

Butlers ceiling is much higher then Michael Floyd. JMO

 

[Broseph]

I will be honest...

Just like every ex you wonder what could have been

I will wonder for a long time if adding this much offensive talent would have been enough to get Rosen to that QB 17 range .

He would overthrow everyone.

 

[PJ1]

Once it was decided we are going with Murray the Cardinals followed through with what appears to be a damn good draft. Hope it turns out that way.

 

[football karma]

No I have said repeatedly that Rosen can win with talent. I just didn't trust the team to add that talent

So of course Keim has a good draft after trading him

it was the with talent, QB 17 is the ceiling

i think that might be right....

 

[Brak]

Careful. They would eat their young if they could.

They are NOT happy about drafting a punter in the 4th round.

Meanwhile, we have Andy Lee, who they shipped out for a 7th round draft choice a few years ago to save a few pennies, and went with a rookie who's near the bottom of the league and now gone. HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[football karma]

Butlers ceiling is much higher then Michael Floyd. JMO

i should amend my statement. Floyds 2015 year wasnt as good as i remembered -- 52 / 849 /6

look -- if Butler produces 50+ catches and a 16 yard / rec avg consistently, this is a home run

 

[Krangodnzr]

i dunno about best ever, but a few key points that stood out to me:

Rd 2: classic best player vs need. I think Byron Murphy is a very high ceiling, high floor kind of player who will play for 10 years with his instincts and ball skills.

Very interested to see how the defense changes when picking on the opposite side of P2 isnt so easy.

I think the o-line choices there were tackles destined to be guards, maybe with their second teams

Rd 4: Great compliment to what you have already -- i have really like Hakeem Butler for while -- and again, the floor is a Jaron Brown, ceiling 2105 Mike Floyd .

My brother and I were talking about drafting OL and one of things both of us kind of agreed on is that it takes most linemen so many years to be good that it's probably worth just spending free agency money on them.

As far as the tackles go, there were only a few that could step in and place right away.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

This draft cannot be graded. It is basically an entirely new team and front office. Check back in a year

 

[Buckybird]

So of course Keim has a good draft after trading him

I also think K2, Whipple & other offensive coaches had a huge say in whom fit & could be productive in this offense. Huge say

 

[Buckybird]

One big red flag that I didnt catch for Rosen last year is that he wasn't really a winner in college. A good QB is good for at least 8 or 9 wins in college even if the supporting cast is subpar. Rosen didnt really elevate the Bruins much while he was there. If you think back to Cutler, that was the same red flag he had and he never really shook that in the pros either.

FYI:

My HS friend former Devils HC Todd Graham texted me those exact words Friday after we drafted Murray!!! You have to remember he coached against Rosen at UCLA & btw coached at Allen HS years ago & knows Murray well. He luvs the switch & pick of #1