Obama’s golf weekend with Tiger Woods cost taxpayers more than $3.6 million

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  1. DWKB

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    Would you not take his “oh well” attitude over others here who are advocating for what is happening and are likely to double down on it?
     
  2. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Of course. But if you’re in the “oh well” group I’d figure you were at least salvageable with a soul that could be reached. Those that advocate for the awfulness I feel are just beyond saving.
     
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    Oh no, I understand the things going on. I'm just not putting effort into the reply. The fact that people have this "you are white and straight so you don't get it" doesn't resonate with me. I know plenty of gays, minorities and whomever else we want to point out that in conversation about the ******** going on do not immediately go to insults, voice raising and other conversational discourse at every opportunity available.

    It's a conversation forum. Taking the point of anger, vitriol, Vernon and finger pointing vs discussing your position and values isn't the right way to do it

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    I never said oh well about it, I just don't care for the takes on it I was replying to.

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  5. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    I think you’re wrong to dismiss others’ anger for reasons you don’t experience.
     
  6. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Okay. If that were it. But you’re castigating him for voicing his anger, or seemingly for even being angry. He’s got every reason, forget about right, to be so.
     
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    Fine with me.

    Having anger toward issues is one thing, hurling your anger at anyone possible is another

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  8. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    I tend to give righteously angry people a little leeway.
     
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    Hold up hold up, I never even said anything about any of this anyway. I said I'm not interested in redoing the kneecap discussion. Everything after that is projecting anger at me that wasn't even relevant to the discussion. If the perspective is "those under undue stress may lash out at anyone for any reason" than yeah, I disagree.

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  10. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Eh okay. I think this conversation has run its course.
     
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    Why?

    Righteous anger can be very dangerous.
     
  12. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Note I didn’t say “self righteous” I said “righteous.” In other words I’m not saying that someone who believes they’re right in their anger, but someone who is objectively right in their anger. Self righteous anger is usually misplaced and dangerous. Righteous anger is usually necessary to effectuate just change.
     
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    How do you objectively decide the difference?


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  14. Ouchie-Z-Clown

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    Infringing upon one’s unalienable rights.

    I guess it comes down to morals. Those with crappy morals will argue they are righteous I guess, but most of us know right from wrong and can make the differentiation.
     
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    You have more faith in humanity and certain sections of our population that I do. When they have been given the opportunity to do right and show us they know right from wrong, they don't.
     

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