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  1. JCSunsfan

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    Monty was asked specifically this morning about putting Bridges in the starting line up for Oubre. He said they have and are considering it. But also said that they are both going to get similar minutes regardless of whether who is starting. He did not think who started matters that much overall because the minutes are similar.
     
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    He should try starting both players. It works in crunch time. When the game is lost by slow starts not much to lose.
     
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    Heard the interview live. This is not Monty's call.
     
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    You're asking the question, then dictating the scope of the answer.

    Better, yes. Better enough? Nowhere near good enough.

    Not when we have only five quality (or potential quality)
    players in a 9-man rotation battling NBA opponents.

    Running them into the ground all season long.
     
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    Stats suggest Suns are better without Saric on the floor.


    Evan Sidery‏ @esidery

    Over the last 30 games, Dario Saric is only shooting 28.9% on 3s. The Suns are also 4.9 points better when Saric is off the floor during that span.

    Have to wonder if the Suns try to deal Saric before the deadline in two weeks. Seems apparent he’s not a long-term fit in Phoenix.

    3:09 PM - 24 Jan 2020
     
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    I could have told you that the moment the Suns traded for him...Oh wait, I did...
     
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    Not tonight.
     
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    Saric had a solid game with 20 points.
     
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    Indeed. The difference in the game offensively, along with Booker and Oubre.
     
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    BTW, in case you haven't noticed, Bridges has gone completely into the tank since he was benched after his career night in Boston, culminating with the worst game of his career tonight.

    In the three games starting with the benching, Bridges is a poor 8-24 from the field (2-12 tonight), a ghastly 2-12 from three point range (1-7 tonight), and a minus-18 total (minus-12 tonight). Yuck.
     
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    Yes, there is an idiom in sports that you go with the hot hand unless and until he fades.

    From that perspective alone, Bridges and Oubre should be the starting Forwards
    after Bridges' breakout game. Even if Bridges gets the same amount of minutes.

    Not to mention how it deflates a young player to have his best NBA game, as a
    starter, then immediately get benched.

    And an indication that the Head Coach has a short attention span.

    Put it all together and it makes Monty a disappointment in that regard.

    Unless Sarver is still calling the starting lineup shots as he did with
    Hornacek, in which case, whoever is coaching wouldn't make a difference,
    because Sarver's hires/promotes subordinates who are ... subordinate,
    even if they hold key positions.

    Our only hope is that Larry Fitzgerald, his friend, will also be a friend of
    Suns fans and bolster Sarver's ego while getting him to back off from
    day to day decisions. With Sarver's attention-getting ego, I'm hoping
    that Fitz can manipulate him, for the good of the team.

    In private industry, the public would never know the difference. In
    sports, the results are there for all to see.
     
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    First of all, don’t be dramatic, he wasn’t benched, he was filling in for an injured Oubre and then went back to his role. Second, you seem to leave out the fact that he also started in New York and scored 7 points. And third, has he gone in the tank or has he just gone back to what he been doing all season long? He had a great game in Boston, but there is plenty of evidence to show that currently, that game was an outlier... hopefully a sneak peak, but not his current offensive norm. He has been offensively inconsistent all season long. To claim that his current offensive output (which mirrors his season long offensive output) is due solely to returning to the bench is myopic at best. I would personally start Bridges over Saric, but if he stays in the 6th man role I am quite confident that his gameplay won’t be negatively affected.
     
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    Why look for reasons to not improve? The kid had a breakout game. What did the disappointing Suns
    have to lose by giving Bridges a chance to show what he can do . . . at the expense of moving the
    very inconsistent Saric to backup?

    The Suns are lacking an innovator. Or are stifling potential innovators. As I posted in the thread about
    Larry Fitzgerald possibly influencing Sarver to change the status quo, when you're failing, why not
    give fresh ideas a chance?

    Such as giving Bridges a chance to follow up his breakout game before deciding that he is not ready
    for the next step. Development! Especially on a failing team. We see what running the Suns like a
    bank has produced.
     
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    Using that philosophy you should apply that to Saric right now, right?
    I like Bridges, but not enough to think Boston was his “breakout” game when he hasn’t come close to replicating since.

    The board this year tends to underrate Saric and overrate Bridges, breakout game or no.
     
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    I like Saric more than most here. He works hard in all phases, blocks out, plays fundamentally sound ball. His three pointer has been inconsistent recently which is why he is getting the hate I guess. He is our weakest starter, but lots of teams have someone worse than Saric starting.
     

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