New Rotation

Discussion in 'Phoenix Suns' started by sinsay, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. sinsay

    sinsay Registered

    Posts:
    202
    Likes Received:
    40
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2005
    Monty is doing a great job with this suns team. with that said I think the rotation of some players can help the team.

    Carter should be the backup PG and should log the most mins there behind Rickey.

    Fact is Suns have a huge hole at the spot but Carter plays great D and disrupts the opponent's offense often causing steals and or turnovers.

    He can hit the open shot at times and is not afraid to take big shots. He is competitive, energetic
    and willing to play his role and not buck the system.

    None of the suns PG are perfect none have a great shot so play Carter at least they will have his attributes to help log mins at that spot.

    C. Dillio

    He will not provide spacing something suns need with the starters. He will bring scoring in the paint.
    If the suns hit him for lobs or dump passes when he runs the floor. He can rebound at a decent clip he is young and fits the sun's future timeline. He can alter and block shots. I think within a year he could be a middle-tier player at PF. If he gets more range on his shot no reason he can't become a 12 to 16 pts 8 to 12 rebs per game type of player. He is also a decent FT shooter.

    PG Rubio/Carter/Booker
    SG Booker/Bridges 6th Man/E.Okobo/Cam
    SF Kelly/Bridges/Cam/C.D
    PF Dario/C.D splitting mins/Cam/Bridges/A.B
    C Ayton/A.B/C.D/Frank


    Carter
    Bridges
    Cam
    C.D
    A.B

    I think they could get 35 to 40 per night as a bench unit. With Bridges and Carter playing great D.
     
  2. WildBB

    WildBB Air Raid Locked n Loaded

    Posts:
    14,040
    Likes Received:
    1,060
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2004
    Location:
    The Sonoran Jungle - West
    I've been hearing that it's possible that Kelly goes to 6th man for his offense. It makes some sense as that's what the 2nd unit is mostly lacking.
    It also will get Ayton more involved earlier, consistently.

    All could change if the Suns acquire another scorer before TDL.
     
  3. 95pro

    95pro Registered

    Posts:
    6,481
    Likes Received:
    422
    Joined:
    May 10, 2007
    I've said it before, but Oubre might be better off the bench and Bridges starting. Saric can still start but bring in Oubre 4-6 minutes into the game. Once Ayton or Booker go out with about 8 minutes into the 1st Oubre can go to work.
     
  4. Hoop Head

    Hoop Head ASFN Contributor Contributor

    Posts:
    8,328
    Likes Received:
    3,163
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2005
    Location:
    Tempe, AZ
    I'm not against that happening but the Suns come out so flat already that if Oubre isn't there to provide some spark, I fear it could get worse. Of course it might also help energize everyone else if he comes in at the 4 minute mark to try and get a run going.

    I don't envy Monty's responsibilities when it comes to finding a rotation that works. It's been a while since the Suns had enough legit NBA players to make up even a D'Antoni sized rotation but we're at that point right now with 7-8 guys who should play every game.

    Even with the inconsistent rotations from game to game and some bad losing streaks, we haven't heard anyone complain to the media about their minutes or role, which speaks to how well Monty is handling things, even if we question it as spectators.
     
  5. 95pro

    95pro Registered

    Posts:
    6,481
    Likes Received:
    422
    Joined:
    May 10, 2007

    Im sure Saric has some thoughts but he's a true professional.
     
  6. Hoop Head

    Hoop Head ASFN Contributor Contributor

    Posts:
    8,328
    Likes Received:
    3,163
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2005
    Location:
    Tempe, AZ
    He spoke out and voiced his displeasure with his inconsistent role and playing time in Minnesota last year. Of course he wasn't happy about being dealt there in the first place. He's familiar with Monty since Monty was an assistant in Philly with him so I can't see him speaking out before giving Monty time to figure things out.
     
  7. elindholm

    elindholm edited for content

    Posts:
    22,887
    Likes Received:
    2,829
    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2002
    Location:
    L.A. area
    Hopefully one of his thoughts is, "Maybe I should figure out a way to suck less."
     
    95pro likes this.
  8. 1Sun

    1Sun Registered

    Posts:
    5,735
    Likes Received:
    647
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2018
    Location:
    Chandler, AZ
    I do have to wonder, though, if that is why Saric continues to get gifted playing time and starts he simply does not deserve...
     
  9. 1Sun

    1Sun Registered

    Posts:
    5,735
    Likes Received:
    647
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2018
    Location:
    Chandler, AZ
    That would require a full body transplant. I really do think he tries. He just has the athleticism of an 80-year-old man (and yes, I am speaking in hyperbole here, but his athleticism is nowhere near NBA worthy)...
     
  10. BC867

    BC867 Long time Phoenician! Contributor

    Age:
    79
    Posts:
    16,496
    Likes Received:
    1,387
    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2002
    Location:
    NE Phoenix
    I just hope the players are speaking up behind the scenes. It has reached a
    point of desperation.

    Especially after our last game, when Booker played the entire second half.

    And Monty had him chuck up a hopeless '3' at the end, because a '2'
    would have sent it to overtime and, at least, he knew better than to
    risk his stars' health.

    Including Ayton almost throwing up from exhaustion after the game.

    If it is darkest before the dawn, that time is right now! And, sadly,
    it all falls on Jones, who had no credentials for the GM job.
     
  11. 95pro

    95pro Registered

    Posts:
    6,481
    Likes Received:
    422
    Joined:
    May 10, 2007

    i get it, you don't like James Jones. What did Jones have to start with and what do we have now?

    Yes or no, is that an improvement?
     
  12. BC867

    BC867 Long time Phoenician! Contributor

    Age:
    79
    Posts:
    16,496
    Likes Received:
    1,387
    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2002
    Location:
    NE Phoenix
    What we have now are a sub-par and inconsistent starting Power Forward and no
    dependable backups at Center, Power Forward, Shooting Guard and Point Guard.

    It doesn't matter what we started with. The current Suns are not NBA worthy.

    And no, I don't dislike James Jones. There is nothing personal.

    His only qualification (if you can call it that) is is that he was one of Sarver's
    obedient stooges with no qualifications to step in as General Manager.

    I sympathize with the position that Jones is in. He clearly runs Sarver's errands
    and does not call the shots.

    And, yes, I do not like what Robert Sarver has done to the Suns. Do you?

    Or that Jerry hand picked him. Jerry worked his way up to Managing General
    Partner. Sarver walked right into it and thought that made him an instant
    celebrity and knowledgeable General Manager.

    Whereas, Jerry began in the Marketing Department with the Bulls and stepped
    up to Assistant General Manager before joining the Suns. Sarver did not of that.
    He was a small time banker.
     
  13. 1Sun

    1Sun Registered

    Posts:
    5,735
    Likes Received:
    647
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2018
    Location:
    Chandler, AZ
    To start, he had Booker, Ayton, Bridges, Ariza, Warren, Jackson, a future first round pick from Milwaukee, the Suns' lottery pick in 2019, and a whole pile of hot garbage.

    Right now we have Booker, Ayton, Bridges, Oubre, Rubio, and a whole pile of hot garbage.

    Not an improvement, and it would actually be a significant step down from last year's roster (rather than just neutral relative to last year) if Jones got his way and obtained Dillon Brooks instead of Oubre (giving up at least one additional second round pick in the process) while obtaining Terry Rozier instead of Rubio.

    I don't know how anyone in their right mind could call that an improvement as far as the roster goes.

    The one and only thing for which James Jones deserves positive credit is convincing Monty Williams to come coach this team. Having a competent coach and an actual NBA point guard (albeit an average one at best) are the only reasons this team isn't even worse than last year's team.
     
  14. WildBB

    WildBB Air Raid Locked n Loaded

    Posts:
    14,040
    Likes Received:
    1,060
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2004
    Location:
    The Sonoran Jungle - West
    I've been more disappointed than not by Rubio's season and availability overall. While the Spanish World BB tourney title was a nice accomplishment, his leading this team on the point has been sporadic for turnovers, and shooting. It has to pick up if they hope for anything this year or next. His defense is above average for the position and he sees the floor well. We need much more of the Boston game from him on a nightly basis. Having him and Baynes playing better again would be huge. Baynes is another one who played in the World tourney, and he already looks spent compared to the beginning of the year. Both have to play their best for us going forward. And be available.
     
  15. 95pro

    95pro Registered

    Posts:
    6,481
    Likes Received:
    422
    Joined:
    May 10, 2007

    So about James Jones, did he make the team better...yes or no?
     

Share This Page