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I was hoping to have my ideas welcomed by this board, as new ideas are what challenge our thoughts and improve the discussions. So far, I have noticed an arrogance by those who have thousands of posts. They seem to feel that their thoughts and points of view are somehow more valid due to the fact that they have typed a lot in this arena. I hope that elitist attitude is not shared by all. Comments like "you'll get the hang of this board eventually" only serve to create an environment where the "senior" posters are right and the "newbies" are wrong. Please remember that new posters do not mean new football fans. A little humility and openess to ideas is a good thing in life AND for this board!
 

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Humility is for the weak! I am wrong all the time. I got used to it. I don't think the attitudes here are any worse than anywhere else. I personally haven't read any of your ideas, but I will go see if you were treated unfairly. Senior posters here, for the most part, seem to accept when someone makes a good point.
 

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I was hoping to have my ideas welcomed by this board, as new ideas are what challenge our thoughts and improve the discussions. So far, I have noticed an arrogance by those who have thousands of posts. They seem to feel that their thoughts and points of view are somehow more valid due to the fact that they have typed a lot in this arena. I hope that elitist attitude is not shared by all. Comments like "you'll get the hang of this board eventually" only serve to create an environment where the "senior" posters are right and the "newbies" are wrong. Please remember that new posters do not mean new football fans. A little humility and openess to ideas is a good thing in life AND for this board!

Basically , you suck..............................:D ;)

Don't let it bother you and don't worry about impressing anybody. Trust me , there are some on this board that believe us "seniors" don't know what the helll we sre talking about. But hey, thats what makes the world go round.
 
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Humility is for the weak! I am wrong all the time. I got used to it. I don't think the attitudes here are any worse than anywhere else. I personally haven't read any of your ideas, but I will go see if you were treated unfairly. Senior posters here, for the most part, seem to accept when someone makes a good point.

The point is that there is often no right or wrong. There are just points of view. Just because I don't have 12 hours a day to post on a message board, doesn't mean I don't know the game. I've been following this game longer that most "senior" posters have been alive
 

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I was hoping to have my ideas welcomed by this board, as new ideas are what challenge our thoughts and improve the discussions. So far, I have noticed an arrogance by those who have thousands of posts. They seem to feel that their thoughts and points of view are somehow more valid due to the fact that they have typed a lot in this arena. I hope that elitist attitude is not shared by all. Comments like "you'll get the hang of this board eventually" only serve to create an environment where the "senior" posters are right and the "newbies" are wrong. Please remember that new posters do not mean new football fans. A little humility and openess to ideas is a good thing in life AND for this board!

And quoting a guy while talking about the cap and NFL finances, not knowing that guy is the most knowledgeable cap guy on the board by far, makes it kind of funny to watch you post.

And comments like the one you posted, talking about how important money is in football and framing it as if nobody here really gets that, well that also shows that you don't know your audience here. That isn't a new idea or anything that anyone needs reminded of.

"You'll get the hang of this board eventually" means that soon enough, you'll know who is who and the general level of football knowledge ASFN has contained within. It was actually a nice comment from me...a welcome.
 

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The point is that there is often no right or wrong. There are just points of view. Just because I don't have 12 hours a day to post on a message board, doesn't mean I don't know the game. I've been following this game longer that most "senior" posters have been alive

We like to debate issues, so people will disagree a lot. Don't let it get to you. You don't have 12 hours a day to post? Do you have one of those "Life" things people talk about?
 
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And quoting a guy while talking about the cap and NFL finances, not knowing that guy is the most knowledgeable cap guy on the board by far, makes it kind of funny to watch you post.

And comments like the one you posted, talking about how important money is in football and framing it as if nobody here really gets that, well that also shows that you don't know your audience here. That isn't a new idea or anything that anyone needs reminded of.

"You'll get the hang of this board eventually" means that soon enough, you'll know who is who and the general level of football knowledge ASFN has contained within. It was actually a nice comment from me...a welcome.

If you want me to bow to this guy, you're waiting for something that ain't gonna happen. Don't call out my football knowledge either, as you don't know me at all. Arrogance by you or Joe doesn't make this a good forum.
 
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We like to debate issues, so people will disagree a lot. Don't let it get to you. You don't have 12 hours a day to post? Do you have one of those "Life" things people talk about?

Unfortunately I do have a life, and just want to occasionally interject an opinion. Apparently some people equate time on the board to overall football knowledge. That is a shame. I guess I'll just get used to arrogant posters, just as there are arrogant people in all walks of life!
 

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If you want me to bow to this guy, you're waiting for something that ain't gonna happen. Don't call out my football knowledge either, as you don't know me at all. Arrogance by you or Joe doesn't make this a good forum.


Hey man, its a football message board.

If you want your input taken seriously, I can respect that. But getting all bunged up about what happens on a message board is pointless.

Its the internet equivalent of a locker room.

And now that your pouting, get ready for some towel popping.
 

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If you want me to bow to this guy, you're waiting for something that ain't gonna happen. Don't call out my football knowledge either, as you don't know me at all. Arrogance by you or Joe doesn't make this a good forum.

Oh, so you are a new WHINY poster. One who can't understand general English or how to play nice with others.

Thanks, now I got it. I will now act accordingly and treat you with as much respect as you deserve.

For starters, go back and quote me the parts where I questioned YOUR football knowledge.

Then go and find where Joe had any arrogance towards you.

Maybe along your journey you'll run across the point, and come back with a clear head and the knowledge that nobody insulted you, said you had no football knowledge or anything like that. The only thing that was said to you was an encouraging "you'll get the lay of the land soon enough" which means you won't go causing mini flamewars like this by blowing things out of proportion because you misinterpreted a comment.

BTW, I like old and new posters. So your argument there is moot.
 
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Hey man, its a football message board.

If you want your input taken seriously, I can respect that. But getting all bunged up about what happens on a message board is pointless.

Its the internet equivalent of a locker room.

And now that your pouting, get ready for some towel popping.

I understand your point, but you have some numnuts on here that only value their points of view. Since you have no concept about a new poster's knowledge, you'd be well advised to not pass judgement. I was told that this is an intelligent board, but with the comments that I've seen, that is far from the truth
 

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If you want me to bow to this guy, you're waiting for something that ain't gonna happen. Don't call out my football knowledge either, as you don't know me at all. Arrogance by you or Joe doesn't make this a good forum.

dude, you're taking this all the wrong way. It's just that you quoting a guy and telling him something ALL OF US know is a little insulting, telling him and us something as if we're clueless. How D-Dog or Joe was being arrogant is beyond me here.
 
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Oh, so you are a new WHINY poster. One who can't understand general English or how to play nice with others.

Thanks, now I got it. I will now act accordingly and treat you with as much respect as you deserve.

For starters, go back and quote me the parts where I questioned YOUR football knowledge.

Then go and find where Joe had any arrogance towards you.

Maybe along your journey you'll run across the point, and come back with a clear head and the knowledge that nobody insulted you, said you had no football knowledge or anything like that. The only thing that was said to you was an encouraging "you'll get the lay of the land soon enough" which means you won't go causing mini flamewars like this by blowing things out of proportion because you misinterpreted a comment.

BTW, I like old and new posters. So your argument there is moot.

Go back to YOUR response of how amazed you were that anyone would dare question the almight "Joe's" quote about the salary cap. It would be in yours and the board's best interest to embrace new comments. Unfortunately your misplaced pride does not allow you to do this. Wh don't you just have the moderator ban all posters who disagree with you. Then you won't have to deal with opposing views
 

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I understand your point, but you have some numnuts on here that only value their points of view. Since you have no concept about a new poster's knowledge, you'd be well advised to not pass judgement. I was told that this is an intelligent board, but with the comments that I've seen, that is far from the truth

then you can always leave. That's an option you do have if you really believe it's not an intelligent board filled with arrogant people and numnuts. Seriously, if you heard this was a great board and by all means, most of the people here LOVE this board, don't you think maybe the problem right now is you?
 
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dude, you're taking this all the wrong way. It's just that you quoting a guy and telling him something ALL OF US know is a little insulting, telling him and us something as if we're clueless. How D-Dog or Joe was being arrogant is beyond me here.

My take was for most fans that simply want us to lock down everyone without regard to the cap. If you already understand the economics of that... fine. This was to speak to those who need the reality check. SOME on this board do understand that, and others don't
 

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My take was for most fans that simply want us to lock down everyone without regard to the cap. If you already understand the economics of that... fine. This was to speak to those who need the reality check. SOME on this board do understand that, and others don't

pretty much EVERYONE on this board or follow football enough to post on a message board understand the most basic concept of cap economics.
 
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then you can always leave. That's an option you do have if you really believe it's not an intelligent board filled with arrogant people and numnuts. Seriously, if you heard this was a great board and by all means, most of the people here LOVE this board, don't you think maybe the problem right now is you?

Not at all, I was simply stating my take on the Dansby issue. I didn't understand that this was the "old boy" network. I guess it's easy to pile on a new poster, much like a radio talk show host does with a contrary point of view
 
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pretty much EVERYONE on this board or follow football enough to post on a message board understand the most basic concept of cap economics.

Then those who understand it, don't need to respond. Also, even if we understand something, doesn't mean we don't need a reality check from time to time
 

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Not at all, I was simply stating my take on the Dansby issue. I didn't understand that this was the "old boy" network. I guess it's easy to pile on a new poster, much like a radio talk show host does with a contrary point of view

dude, you are freaking out (and yes, when you start a thread all about you that has nothing to do with football, I consider that internet freaking out) because D-dog tried to tell that it's ironic you're explaining cap economics to a guy who's probably the most respected cap guy on the board. Get over yourself.
 

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Go back to YOUR response of how amazed you were that anyone would dare question the almight "Joe's" quote about the salary cap. It would be in yours and the board's best interest to embrace new comments. Unfortunately your misplaced pride does not allow you to do this. Wh don't you just have the moderator ban all posters who disagree with you. Then you won't have to deal with opposing views

Oh good lord dude.

The POINT is, it was funny that you quoted a guy on the board who is well versed in the cap, and break out with some bargain bin comments about money in the NFL, shows that you do NOT know your audience.

It's like walking into a party full of Wall Street analysts, standing on a soapbox and yelling out "Guys, it's all about buying low and selling high!"


I love opposing views. I don't like arrogant newbies with a "senior posters don't respect me" complex.

Look at the Redskins fan on the board this week...wonder why he's getting welcomed with open arms? And guess who one of the first people saying he was great to have on the board was...that's right, me. Mr. Arrogant Sr. Poster who hates newbies and wants them all banned. Again, know your audience.

Oh, and I have an MBA too...whoopdee freaking doo.
 

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Then those who understand it, don't need to respond. Also, even if we understand something, doesn't mean we don't need a reality check from time to time

because most of the people live in fantasy land? Dude, get over it. You made an obvious comment, people called it out as obvious and you've gotten incredibly defensive. Move on.
 

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Not at all, I was simply stating my take on the Dansby issue. I didn't understand that this was the "old boy" network. I guess it's easy to pile on a new poster, much like a radio talk show host does with a contrary point of view
It's nothing like that but when come here and say "what posters don't understand" and then spout off a very basic principle of salary cap management, you will catch grief. It wasn't even that big of a deal until you made it one.
 
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It's nothing like that but when come here and say "what posters don't understand" and then spout off a very basic principle of salary cap management, you will catch grief. It wasn't even that big of a deal until you made it one.

Sometimes the basics are what we all need to get back to. Not a big deal until Donald felt that his girlfriend Joe was being challenged. I thought that was hilarious!
 
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