McNabb told to have season-ending surgery

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PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Donovan McNabb was told Thursday to have surgery that probably would end his season.
The Eagles' quarterback is considering his options.

The five-time Pro Bowl quarterback will miss Philadelphia's game against the New York Giants on Sunday with a groin injury, but hasn't made a decision beyond that.

McNabb has played with a sports hernia most of the season. He re-injured his groin while trying to tackle Cowboys safety Roy Williams following an interception on Monday night. Williams returned it 46 yards for a touchdown with 2:43 left to lead Dallas to a 21-20 comeback victory over the Eagles.

Dr. William Meyers recommended that McNabb have surgery now to correct the sports hernia after an examination Thursday morning.

McNabb had planned to have surgery after the season, but he said Wednesday he wasn't sure if he'd do it sooner. Mike McMahon, who had been the third string quarterback, will start in McNabb's place.

"He's our leader. If he's out, it's a major hit," tight end L.J. Smith said. "It's definitely a blow to our offense."

McNabb clearly hasn't been the same quarterback who led the Eagles to the NFC championship game the last four years. He has thrown a costly interception in each of the last three games, and has nine picks this season.

He threw just eight interceptions last season when he became the first player in NFL history to throw more than 30 touchdown passes (31) and fewer than 10 interceptions.

Overall, McNabb has passed for 2,507 yards, 16 TDs and has a passer rating of 85.0 this season. His troubles started off the field with the turmoil between him and Terrell Owens.

McNabb feuded with Owens throughout the summer after he was criticized by the All-Pro wideout, and the two didn't speak for a prolonged period. They clicked on the field, however, with Owens catching 47 passes for 763 yards and six TDs in seven games.

Owens was suspended on Nov. 5 following a series of incidents, including repeated criticism of McNabb and lashing put at the organization. He was told not to return to the team last week.

McNabb hurt his chest in the season opener and has been bothered by the sports hernia since September.

Sports hernias are most common among male athletes. A diagnosis sometimes can be tricky because, unlike more common hernias, there is not always a visible bulge in the leg or groin area. And with about 18 different variations, sports hernias can range from torn muscles to frayed muscles to a weakness in the abdominal wall.

Sometimes, the symptoms masquerade as a hip joint problem, a groin pull, a strained abdominal muscle or bursitis in the hip.

In four seasons with Detroit, McMahon started seven games. He had a 43.8 completion percentage with 10 touchdown passes and 13 interceptions, but ran for 273 yards on 46 carries.

"Mike has a strong arm, he has good speed and he makes good decisions," running back Brian Westbrook said. "I'm confident in his ability to go out and make plays."
 

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nidan said:
Do the Eagles still have a chance to return to the SB this year ?

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nidan said:
I assume you mean no by that ?

Look at their division, Dallas, Washington and NY are all having good years. With all of the distractions and injuries I don't think they have any chance of winning the NFC East and I don't think they'll make the Wild Card.
 

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I still don't understand ?

You are saying that poor personnel decisions and injuries are why the Eagles won't be at the big game ?

So, it's ok to talk about injuries for other teams but not us ?
 

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nidan said:
I still don't understand ?

You are saying that poor personnel decisions and injuries are why the Eagles won't be at the big game ?

So, it's ok to talk about injuries for other teams but not us ?

I'm of the opinion that injuries are a valid discussion when it comes to win/loss records. Injuries are a part of the game...which means they are a part of why games are lost.

As far as the Eagles situation, competition + overall talent level currently on the field = no playoffs.
 

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I do understand and wasn't even singleing you out.

My point is that here in AZ, some folks are ready to tar and feather DG after just 1.5 seasons. The second season of these has been marred by a massive rash of injuries.

It seems that in cities to mention these things is an excuse, in some places it is reality. Reality is we are lacking a significant number of starters that DG had planned on this year, that must impact our W/L record.

I hear cries of cheap and poor planning in the offseason, while nobody is ripping on Andy Ried for signing TO. Is their anybody out there that wasn't expecting TO to blow up, particulalry with the demon spawn as his agent.

Many on this board have double standards.
 

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McNabb was nothing more than a liability to his team the last few weeks. Even though I don't like him as a player I don't wish him physical harm. This is a good move. Seasons over for them playoff wise so why gamble with your franchise?
 

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nidan said:
I do understand and wasn't even singleing you out.

My point is that here in AZ, some folks are ready to tar and feather DG after just 1.5 seasons. The second season of these has been marred by a massive rash of injuries.

It seems that in cities to mention these things is an excuse, in some places it is reality. Reality is we are lacking a significant number of starters that DG had planned on this year, that must impact our W/L record.

I hear cries of cheap and poor planning in the offseason, while nobody is ripping on Andy Ried for signing TO. Is their anybody out there that wasn't expecting TO to blow up, particulalry with the demon spawn as his agent.

Many on this board have double standards.

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nidan said:
I hear cries of cheap and poor planning in the offseason, while nobody is ripping on Andy Ried for signing TO. Is their anybody out there that wasn't expecting TO to blow up, particulalry with the demon spawn as his agent.

Many on this board have double standards.

Nobody is ripping Andy Ried because they traded for TO for pretty much nothing. And drew wasnt his agent when they traded for him. TO went hired Drew a year later. The same thing Boldin did by the way.
 

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I wanna see how Mike McMahon does, he was one of the guys that I thought Arizona should of looked at, this kid has great ability just needs time to develope but with the oline we got here he would probly work pretty well.

but he could also at the same time be a choke but Im kind of intrested on what he does.
 

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nidan said:
I still don't understand ?

You are saying that poor personnel decisions and injuries are why the Eagles won't be at the big game ?

So, it's ok to talk about injuries for other teams but not us ?

I see exactly what you are doing here. :thumbup:

:grabs:
 

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But Q managed his agent, TO hired a guy who thinks like he does. TO was a pain in the butt before he signed the evil one, DR just made it worse.

A TO blowup was predicable from the start

Q is signed for a long term contract
 

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nidan said:
But Q managed his agent, TO hired a guy who thinks like he does. TO was a pain in the butt before he signed the evil one, DR just made it worse.

A TO blowup was predicable from the start

Q is signed for a long term contract

Never said anything different. Just pointing out that one of your issues with TO when Ried got him was completely wrong.

A blow up was predictable yes, but to this extent not even close.
 

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Many on this board have double standards.

Agreed, it is acceptable for McNabb to shut it down to not risk further injury, but when it is said that Boldin shouldn't rush back, it is somehow blasphemous
 

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Assface said:
Look at their division, Dallas, Washington and NY are all having good years. With all of the distractions and injuries I don't think they have any chance of winning the NFC East and I don't think they'll make the Wild Card.


Hey, you can't use injuries and schedule as an excuse!!!! This team sucks, just admit it, they need a real QB, RB, O-line, LB, and a run stuffing DT. Don't make excusses :sarcasm:
 

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nidan said:
I do understand and wasn't even singleing you out.

My point is that here in AZ, some folks are ready to tar and feather DG after just 1.5 seasons. The second season of these has been marred by a massive rash of injuries.

It seems that in cities to mention these things is an excuse, in some places it is reality. Reality is we are lacking a significant number of starters that DG had planned on this year, that must impact our W/L record.

I hear cries of cheap and poor planning in the offseason, while nobody is ripping on Andy Ried for signing TO. Is their anybody out there that wasn't expecting TO to blow up, particulalry with the demon spawn as his agent.

Many on this board have double standards.

I would agree with you on the Cardinal part of this except for the fact that we sucked WITH all the starters. This team hasn't done anything. Every team has injuries, that's never been in my excuse bag. Same with the Eagles. If McNabb is done for the year, then Philly won't make it (I don't think they would make it with him in there either). Problem with the 'injury' argument is that we didn't win with our 1st and 2nd string QB or RB or anything. The line, even when healthy, has sucked.
I've always been pissed when the announcer say that the Pats have been 'decimated' by injuries which is why they're losing their 'swagger'...so what! Every team has injuries.
 

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blindseyed said:
I would agree with you on the Cardinal part of this except for the fact that we sucked WITH all the starters. This team hasn't done anything. Every team has injuries, that's never been in my excuse bag. Same with the Eagles. If McNabb is done for the year, then Philly won't make it (I don't think they would make it with him in there either). Problem with the 'injury' argument is that we didn't win with our 1st and 2nd string QB or RB or anything. The line, even when healthy, has sucked.
I've always been pissed when the announcer say that the Pats have been 'decimated' by injuries which is why they're losing their 'swagger'...so what! Every team has injuries.

Name one team this year that has had injuries worse than we have.
 

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BigDavis75 said:
Name one team this year that has had injuries worse than we have.

It doesn't matter, my point is that we sucked even before the injuries. GB has abunch of injuries and so do the Pats, yet GB has picked it up a bit and NE is still winning. They were bad AFYTER injuries...we've consistently been bad.

I'm not denying our injuries and if we had been any good before, I'd say it was a factor but we have been bad all year...our back-ups suck too.
 

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blindseyed said:
It doesn't matter, my point is that we sucked even before the injuries. GB has abunch of injuries and so do the Pats, yet GB has picked it up a bit and NE is still winning. They were bad AFYTER injuries...we've consistently been bad.

I'm not denying our injuries and if we had been any good before, I'd say it was a factor but we have been bad all year...our back-ups suck too.

We had injuries from the get-go also New England's injuries haven't been nearly as bad as ours and the Pack have barely no injuries on D. Also, NE is only one game up in a weak division, after getting one of their best players back from injury. The Pack are still bad though, they are 2-7, same record as guess who? the Pack started out bad when they had everyone and still got whupped in DET. If we were a completely healthy team, we would end up 7-9 at the worst.
 

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BigDavis75 said:
We had injuries from the get-go also New England's injuries haven't been nearly as bad as ours and the Pack have barely no injuries on D. Also, NE is only one game up in a weak division, after getting one of their best players back from injury. The Pack are still bad though, they are 2-7, same record as guess who? the Pack started out bad when they had everyone and still got whupped in DET. If we were a completely healthy team, we would end up 7-9 at the worst.

"If we"...that whole thing is just crazy. "If we" we had Ben or Leftwhich we could be 8-8..."If we"..would'nt have had that last pick, we'd win the game, "If we" ..had a more picks we would've won...it's all lip service. My point being, this team sucks, and there's no way of knowing "If we" would've been 7-9 this year. We're getting 'one of our best player" back in Boldin...so what? We still suck.
 

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BigDavis75 said:
We had injuries from the get-go also New England's injuries haven't been nearly as bad as ours and the Pack have barely no injuries on D. Also, NE is only one game up in a weak division, after getting one of their best players back from injury. The Pack are still bad though, they are 2-7, same record as guess who? the Pack started out bad when they had everyone and still got whupped in DET. If we were a completely healthy team, we would end up 7-9 at the worst.

This team got BLEW OUT to an overrated Giants team game one, got beat AT HOME to a weak Rams team weak 2, went onto get our collective azzes handed to us week 3 in Seattle. This team was relatively healthy at that point of the season. For you to say this team would be doing any better had the injuries not occured is pure wirshful thinking at its highest level.

Ian injuries are a reality in the NFL it is NOT AN EXCUSE for losing.
 

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This team got BLEW OUT to an overrated Giants team game one, got beat AT HOME to a weak Rams team weak 2, went onto get our collective azzes handed to us week 3 in Seattle. This team was relatively healthy at that point of the season. For you to say this team would be doing any better had the injuries not occured is pure wirshful thinking at its highest level.

Ian injuries are a reality in the NFL it is NOT AN EXCUSE for losing.


Overrated Giants team??? A team that is 6-3, has the most prolific Offense so far this season, has a fairly decent defense, was AT HOME ON 9/11 in NY!!!

Lost to the Rams in a heartbreaker, due to some bad officiating (IMHO). They barely outgained us on the ground by 22 yards, we blew them up thru the air outgaining them by 111 yards, and could have won at the very end if we had any clock management at all.

Lost to Seattle a team that is 7-2, who is also on a tear making a run for the superbowl.

Also we had the following losses to injuries due/by these games:

LB Gerald Hayes allready out for season (allthough didn't know at the time)
C. Alex Stepanovich out for game 1 vs NYG
FB James Hodgins lost for the season during game 1 vs NYG, out vs Rams & Seattle and remainder of season
LB James Darling out for 2nd half vs NYG

LB Gerald Hayes out for game vs Rams
LB James Darling out for game vs Rams
FB James Hodgins out for game vs Rams
RB JJ Arrington out for game vs Rams

LB Gerald Hayes out for game vs Seattle
LB James Darling out for game vs Seattle
FB James Hodgins out for game vs Seattle
QB Kurt Warner lost for 2nd half vs Seattle
DT Russell Davis lost for year during game vs Seattle
CB Antrell Rolle lost for year (probably) during game vs Seattle
OT Oliver ROss lost for several games during game vs Seattle


So to say we didnt have injuries before these three games is plain nonsense.
 

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