Magic Numbers for Playoff Seeding (Suns Clinched at least 2seed)

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With the Suns victory last night, the Suns can finish no worse than 10th in the Conference, insuring at worst the 10th seed.

Play-in format:

7/8 seeds play, winner gets 7 seed.
9/10 seeds play, loser is out, winner plays the loser of the 7/8 seed game.
Winner gets the 8th seed.

In summary, a team that is a 7 or 8 seed needs to win one game to make the play-offs
A team that is the 9/10 seed needs to win two games.

Magic Numbers as of 4/19/21 games

The Magic Number is calculated by taking the number of games in the season (72), adding one, subtracting Suns wins and other teams losses. Every Suns win reduces the magic number as does every loss by the other team.
The team next to the seed is the one next in line for that particular seed. For example, the Clippers are currently in third place. The magic number for the Suns represents the combination of Suns wins and Clippers losses to ensure the Suns at minimum the 2 seed

1 Seed (Utah) - 17 (Home Court Through Out Playoffs)
2 Seed (Clippers) - 13 (Home Court 1st and 2nd Rounds)
4 Seed (Lakers) - 9 (Home Court 1st Round)
6 Seed (Mavericks) - 6 (Last non-play-in Seed)
7 Seed (Grizzlies) - 5 (Home Court 7/8 Play-in)
8 Seed (Spurs) - 4 (Need one win in Play-in Game)
9 Seed (Warriors) - 3 (Home Court 9/10 Play-in)
 

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This is why it is important for the Suns to finish 6th or above in the West standings to avoid any possibility of a play-in.

Obviously the Suns want to finish 4th or above to get home court advantage in the first round.
 

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This is why it is important for the Suns to finish 6th or above in the West standings to avoid any possibility of a play-in.

Obviously the Suns want to finish 4th or above to get home court advantage in the first round.


Yup - the wins need to keep piling up.
 

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After Wednesday's Games

1 Seed (Utah) - 16 (Home Court Through Out Playoffs)
2 Seed (Clippers) - 12 (Home Court 1st and 2nd Rounds)
4 Seed (Lakers) - 8 (Home Court 1st Round)
6 Seed (Mavericks) - 5 (Last non-play-in Seed)
7 Seed (Grizzlies) - 3 (Home Court 7/8 Play-in)
8 Seed (Spurs) - 2 (Need one win in Play-in Game)
9 Seed (Warriors) - 1 (Home Court 9/10 Play-in)
 

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After Monday's Games

1 Seed (Utah) - 13 (Home Court Through Out Playoffs)
2 Seed (Clippers) - 10 (Home Court 1st and 2nd Rounds)
3 Seed (Nuggets) - 9
4 Seed (Lakers) - 5 (Home Court 1st Round)
6 Seed (Trail Blazers) - 2 (Last non-play-in Seed)
7 Seed (Grizzlies) - 1 (Home Court 7/8 Play-in)
8 Seed (Spurs) - 1 (Need one win in Play-in Game)


If Playoffs were to start today:


7/8 Game: Trail Blazers vs Grizzlies
Winner gets 7 Seed, Loser plays winner of 9/10 game
9/10 Game: Spurs vs Warriors

1 vs 8: Jazz vs Play-in #8
2 vs 7: Suns vs Trail Blazers/Grizzlies winner
3 vs 6: Clippers vs Mavericks
4 vs 5: Nuggets vs Lakers
 

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After Wednesday's Games

NOTE: Phoenix holds the tie breakers with Utah and Lakers - Magic Number reflects a tie
Clippers and Nuggets hold tie breaker over the Suns

1 Seed (Utah) - 11 (Home Court Through Out Playoffs)
2 Seed (Clippers) - 8 (Home Court 1st and 2nd Rounds)
3 Seed (Nuggets) - 8
4 Seed (Lakers) - 2 (Home Court 1st Round)



If Playoffs were to start today:


7/8 Game: Trail Blazers vs Grizzlies
Winner gets 7 Seed, Loser plays winner of 9/10 game
9/10 Game: Spurs vs Warriors

1 vs 8: Jazz vs Play-in #8
2 vs 7: Suns vs Trail Blazers/Grizzlies winner
3 vs 6: Clippers vs Mavericks
4 vs 5: Nuggets vs Lakers
 

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After Wednesday's Games

NOTE: Phoenix holds the tie breakers with Utah and Lakers - Magic Number reflects a tie
Clippers and Nuggets hold tie breaker over the Suns

1 Seed (Utah) - 11 (Home Court Through Out Playoffs)
2 Seed (Clippers) - 8 (Home Court 1st and 2nd Rounds)
3 Seed (Nuggets) - 8
4 Seed (Lakers) - 2 (Home Court 1st Round)



If Playoffs were to start today:


7/8 Game: Trail Blazers vs Grizzlies
Winner gets 7 Seed, Loser plays winner of 9/10 game
9/10 Game: Spurs vs Warriors

1 vs 8: Jazz vs Play-in #8
2 vs 7: Suns vs Trail Blazers/Grizzlies winner
3 vs 6: Clippers vs Mavericks
4 vs 5: Nuggets vs Lakers
I like this first-round matchup better than if we had the #1 seed.
 

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What a fun amazing season godly turnaround!!

Cp mvp!!!

Hoping no injuries before poffs that be horrible
 

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Seems like the best thread to put it in.

Just before the most recent road trip, Phoenix had the 2nd most difficult schedule left to play, and Utah had, I believe, the 28th (I don't remember where LAC was).

As of today, Suns are down to 12th, Utah up to 17th, LAC at 26th.

http://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

Note, this only accounts for opponent win %.
 

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After Sunday's Games

NOTE: Phoenix holds the tie breakers with Utah and Lakers - Magic Number reflects a tie
Clippers and Nuggets hold tie breaker over the Suns

1 Seed (Utah) - 8 (Home Court Through Out Playoffs)
2 Seed (Nuggets) - 6 (Home Court 1st and 2nd Rounds)
3 Seed (Clippers) - 5




If Playoffs were to start today:


7/8 Game: Lakers vs Grizzlies
Winner gets 7 Seed, Loser plays winner of 9/10 game
9/10 Game: Warriors vs Spurs

1 vs 8: SUNS vs Play-in #8
2 vs 7: Jazz vs Lakers/Grizzlies winner
3 vs 6: Nuggets vs Trail Blazers
4 vs 5: Clippers vs Mavericks
 

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Seems like the best thread to put it in.

Just before the most recent road trip, Phoenix had the 2nd most difficult schedule left to play, and Utah had, I believe, the 28th (I don't remember where LAC was).

As of today, Suns are down to 12th, Utah up to 17th, LAC at 26th.

http://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

Note, this only accounts for opponent win %.

Just thinking to myself, with 8 games left, how many could the Suns stand to lose and still maintain the #1 seed? Does 6-2 do it? Interestingly we both still play the Spurs twice, as well as Blazers and Warriors once.

Where are the wins and losses for both teams? Let's play this out:

Suns remaining games:

5/4 @ Cavs
5/5 @ Hawks
5/7 vs Knicks
5/9 @ Lakers
5/11 @ Warriors
5/13 vs Blazers
5/15 @ Spurs
5/16 @ Spurs

Jazz remaining games:

5/3 vs Spurs
5/5 vs Spurs
5/7 vs Nuggets
5/8 vs Rockets
5/10 @ Warriors
5/12 vs Blazers
5/14 @ Thunder
5/16 @ Kings
 

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Magical season hope it all ends on a high vibe

What an amazing turnaround from rubio to paul and the bench addition also resigning frank was big actually still have faith in stix.... lol

Go suns in poffs just feels awesome as a fan to be there

Anyone know how hard it would be to get suns poff tickets? Me my bro want to go to a gm!!!
 

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That potential GSW / Sacramento play in is interesting just geographically
Im actually scared vs warriors as a suns fan facing curry is not fun if warriors are still in poff run plus they do have Wiggins obure might want revenge
 

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Just thinking to myself, with 8 games left, how many could the Suns stand to lose and still maintain the #1 seed? Does 6-2 do it? Interestingly we both still play the Spurs twice, as well as Blazers and Warriors once.

Where are the wins and losses for both teams? Let's play this out:

Suns remaining games:

5/4 @ Cavs
5/5 @ Hawks
5/7 vs Knicks
5/9 @ Lakers
5/11 @ Warriors
5/13 vs Blazers
5/15 @ Spurs
5/16 @ Spurs

Jazz remaining games:

5/3 vs Spurs
5/5 vs Spurs
5/7 vs Nuggets
5/8 vs Rockets
5/10 @ Warriors
5/12 vs Blazers
5/14 @ Thunder
5/16 @ Kings
By far the toughest team on this entire list is the Nuggets, and we don't have to worry about them. We COULD run the table, we won't, but we could. The Jazz would find it a lot harder with the Nuggets on their schedule. But they are similar. Jazz have the bonus of having the Rockets and Kings on their schedule, so those two might invalidate the toughness of the Nuggets. Where we have all sorts of problems is with the Spurs...

I like Steph Curry, but the Warriors don't scare me at all.
 
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