Let's talk about Derrick Brown

Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by TheCardFan, Mar 28, 2020.

  1. TheCardFan

    TheCardFan Things have changed.

    Age:
    51
    Posts:
    7,010
    Likes Received:
    3,606
    Joined:
    May 14, 2002
    Location:
    Charlotte
    He is on my do not draft list.

    Starts at 18:23 (audio only)



     
    Mainstreet and Southpaw like this.
  2. BullheadCardFan

    BullheadCardFan Go for it Contributor

    Posts:
    41,573
    Likes Received:
    3,117
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2005
    Location:
    Bullhead City, AZ
    Nkem flashbacks.

    I can't make myself like any DL with our first pick that doesn't have a complete endorsement across the board.
     
  3. Syracusecards

    Syracusecards DA's pass went that way

    Posts:
    2,142
    Likes Received:
    381
    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2004
    that is quite possibly the worst analysis I’ve ever heard and seen. He’s criticizing him for not making plays against Alabama where it’s clear Saban is running plays away from him. Aaron Donald wouldn’t have made plays either. Awful analysis. The dude pushes his guy into the backfield and causes disruption and moves the QB off the spot. Plus from all accounts he’s just a great person and a hard worker. To me, this is a no brainer. Unless Okuda falls to us, I think we have to take him. I like Simmons but I like Brown better.
     
  4. Harry

    Harry ASFN Consultant and Senior Writer

    Age:
    72
    Posts:
    4,440
    Likes Received:
    5,781
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Location:
    Orlando, FL
    Ohcrap75, daves and juza76 like this.
  5. b8rtm8nn

    b8rtm8nn Registered

    Posts:
    3,267
    Likes Received:
    1,445
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2003
    Location:
    Tucson
  6. juza76

    juza76 Registered

    Posts:
    8,635
    Likes Received:
    2,798
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Location:
    milan-italy
    I watched many prospects analysis from this dude and he has a pretty good knowledge
     
    Ohcrap75 and Mainstreet like this.
  7. football karma

    football karma Happy in the pretense of knowledge

    Posts:
    10,485
    Likes Received:
    3,157
    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    i think "do not draft" is too strong

    i think comparisons to Nkemdiche arent justified. Nkemdiches problem wasnt physical, it was between the ears. Derrick Brown is a A+ when it comes to loving the game and being accountable.

    I see him and Andrew Thomas as being in the same bucket: high floor players who at worst will be competent NFL starters. I think they have faded in some eyes as there are questions on how high the upside is.

    i think Derrick Brown is the kind of defensive lineman where at the end of the game, the stat sheet is underwhelming -- but if you look at the film you see him blowing things up and letting other guys finish off a play.
     
    cardsfanmd, Holian and Syracusecards like this.
  8. Mainstreet

    Mainstreet Registered User Contributor

    Posts:
    55,781
    Likes Received:
    9,392
    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2003
    Maybe we should be looking at #65 Deonte Brown OG of Alabama. :wink2:
     
    legend and TheCardFan like this.
  9. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones Has No Time For Love

    Age:
    42
    Posts:
    14,582
    Likes Received:
    3,428
    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2004
    I’m not drafting him until at least the 16th pick.
     
    juza76 likes this.
  10. Dan H

    Dan H Registered User

    Age:
    42
    Posts:
    3,096
    Likes Received:
    781
    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2002
    Location:
    Circle City, IN
    That’s the key.

    We have a chance to get a top-4 or top-5 position player at 8 depending on QBs. Brown is in no way the BPA there.
     
  11. Syracusecards

    Syracusecards DA's pass went that way

    Posts:
    2,142
    Likes Received:
    381
    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2004
    did you watch the video of him criticizing Brown during the Alabama game? What was he expecting Brown to do? He got push upfield, the play went away from him
     
  12. CardinalCovfefe

    CardinalCovfefe Registered

    Age:
    65
    Posts:
    113
    Likes Received:
    90
    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2020
    Location:
    Portland

    Yeah, if somebody has questions about Brown all they need to do is google a replay of the Iron Bowl and watch it. That was a hard fought win against the TOP competition. Brown is among a small handful of players ranked above 7 (with a top score of 8) at NFL.com. The same people that gave Wills a 6.7 I believe it is, as their top rated OT in this draft. I'm comfortable with their assessment.
     
    cardsfanmd, Syracusecards and Holian like this.
  13. Harry

    Harry ASFN Consultant and Senior Writer

    Age:
    72
    Posts:
    4,440
    Likes Received:
    5,781
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Location:
    Orlando, FL
    I thought he played well in that game against a solid O-line, but an NFL line allows less margin for error.
     
  14. TheCardFan

    TheCardFan Things have changed.

    Age:
    51
    Posts:
    7,010
    Likes Received:
    3,606
    Joined:
    May 14, 2002
    Location:
    Charlotte
    I would imagine most people like Brown because they think he is going to be an elite run stopper for us. It can't be because of his sacks.

    In the Alabama game, Najee Harris ran of 146 yards (many times right at him). Brown was a non-factor in the run game...he was manhandled. What is going to happen when he is playing against grown men every Sunday?

    Watch Wills in back to back plays in the red zone vs Brown.
    @ 3:32 - they run right at him and Wills turns him/puts him on a knee
    Very next play they run right at him again and Wills pancakes him...TD.

    He does start to turn it on at about 8:43 (7 min left in 4th QTR).

    You can watch the entire game below.

     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2020
    Ohcrap75 likes this.
  15. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones Has No Time For Love

    Age:
    42
    Posts:
    14,582
    Likes Received:
    3,428
    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2004
    Quinnen Williams was better than this guy. And Quinnen shouldn't have went in the top 10.
     

Share This Page