Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by Harry, Mar 29, 2020.
I'm not sure I'd take Lamb at 8. And yet I fear like hell him playing for the 49ers
means nothing to me. I think he has the biggest bust potential out of the top 3
YPC after Drake acquisition was over 5.
The offense finished 13 in DVOA with awful WR and a rookie QB.
I love Kyler, and he escaped a lot of pressure. But maybe that’s a feature and not a bug of the overall asset allocation within the organization.
I dont think he busts. Think he can be a solid wr. Its more about Shanahan's smarts in knowing how to use him.
A couple of big time YAC wrs in Deebo/Lamb can cause problems. Cross that bridge when we get there though.
I don’t trust WR that come out of systems like that never pressed. Jimmy G still suck? Yup
Sorry don’t try and tell me how good he is when they let him throw it 9 times in a playoff game and they tried to replace him in the offseason That should tell you what they think of there QB
I hope you're right about Jimmy G. A part of me wonders if being 2 years removed from an ACL injury will help him out more.
I totally get Lamb not getting pressed much in Big 12. However, he was destroying Bama. Kyler missed a couple of throws to him as well.
Even when Jimmy was off the 49ers still found ways to get the ball in Deebo's hands. Just not sure I want to face a team with two legit YAC wrs. I hope they take Ruggs and the lack of a consistent deep ball from JImmy makes him useless.
"I'm going to try not to fight someone else's argument, but it's really a challenge here to let it slide."
As they say from one of my favorite songs, "Silence is Golden "-The Four Seasons.
The Hopkins acquisition extended Fitz’ career by two years. He’s going to be third in targets for the first time in his career and see the least amount of attention he ever has. Maybe we can get him down to 8-9m but I doubt it.
It doesn't prove anything. I'm simply highlighting what Dvontel said.
Many Lamb fans here talk about taking BPA at 8 as if Lamb is 100% going to be the best player available. It's very unlikely he will be.
If finito says lamb has the biggest bust potential its pretty obvious he will win offensive rookie of the year
Here are the wide receiver groups ranked best in the league last year
Falcons: Jones, Ridley, Sanu - 1394, 866, 520 - total 2780
Browns: OBJ, Landry, Ratley - 1035, 1174, 200 - total 2409
Rams: Cooks, Woods, Kupp - 583, 1134, 1161 - total 2878
Texans: Hopkins, Fuller, Stills - 1165, 974*, 561 - total 2673
Vikings: Theilen, Diggs, Johnson - 669*, 1130, 294 - total 2093
* - Short season extrapolated to full 16 games
The bottom 5 were Niners, Seahawks, Giants, Ravens, Redskins.
Only 1 of the top 5 teams made the playoffs. 3 of the bottom 5 made it.
By comparison lets see what our current 3 receivers would look based on their 2019 stats
Cardinals: Hopkins, Fitz, Kirk - 1165, 804, 872* - total 2841
That would make them the 2nd best trio in the league.
So why exactly do we need to waste our top pick on another WR?
The only good CB in the BIG12 is Jeff Gladney. Lamb had 14 yards in that game. He had 1 TD, but Gladney wasn't on the field.
Good post with stats.
Bottom line is there is only one football and so many pass plays.
Bring in another front line WR and how does he get his catches this year?
Possibly next year if Larry retires.
But we need help now if possible.
I sure hope Okudah is there. You can never, and I mean never have enough quality CB's
Well done, but WO at #8 is not a waste.
He'll get his snaps in the KK system and eventually replaces your Fitz/804 or possibly Kirk/872.
I'm not advocating for WO if one of the projected "D" stalwarts drops, but I'm not sold on "O" lineman whose evaluation includes the caveat, "could move inside." I'd draft eventual guards in the 3rd or 4th rd.
There are several obvious questions here.
Why do you need to replace Fitz or Kirk? Kirk is 24 years old, has 2 seasons left on a rookie deal and has stats comparable to most WR2's here. Fitz shows no sign of losing the ability or the passion to still play.
If Fitz does decide to retire you will know months before the draft and can find a replacement then. Why find one now you might not need for 2 years?
Either way, you are replacing a WR2/WR3. Who in their right mind drafts a WR2 or WR3 in the top 8 picks? You can get that further back.
We have 3 young WR's we just drafted last year. All with vastly different skill sets. Maybe we should give them a chance to show what they can do seeing as we don't have to draft another WR this year? No point buying a car, driving it off the forecourt then buying another car.
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