Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[GatorAZ]

I’m a dog guy and this is a nothing burger IMO.

 

[602 Native]

Right? I want him to be good because he is the QB for my team, but I find him so unlikable, his face is so punchable, and his self awareness is mind-numbingly low. I want my team to win, but right now, I want to be rid of this guy more than that. Sad.

I've been a fan of this team for 37 years and Ive never disliked a player more than him. AND I STILL WANT HIM TO SUCCEED. FML.

Totally unhinged

Seek help

 

[netsnjkidd]

So you now think that Kyler Murray doesn’t know who Mike Vick is?

And that jersey is sick af. I loved Mike Vick and had two black seven jerseys. But I’m also not a public figure and aren’t sharing it on instagram.

Kyler know vick the player sh*t probably the actually man himself. He wasnt thinking about the dog incident,he was thinking about the player, coach, the man. I know I forgot about it untill someone mentioned the actual dog sitting with him in the photo

 

[Zalixar]

Think I'm going to need about 100 more pages of spirited debate before deciding if he's the guy or not.

 

[kerouac9]

Think I'm going to need about 100 more pages of spirited debate before deciding if he's the guy or not.

Challenge accepted

 

[PDXChris]

Or maybe there are other motives for wearing that jersey with one of his two dogs in the picture. Vick is allowed to own dogs again after doing a lot to bring awareness to the horrific act of dog fighting. His story is disgusting and was a horrific event, but I believe in second chances and redemption and Vick did what he was asked, plus more, since he was able to get his lifetime ban from owning animals lifted.

"I understand the strong emotions by some people about our family's decision to care for a pet," Vick said in a statement. "As a father, it is important to make sure my children develop a healthy relationship with animals. I want to ensure that my children establish a loving bond and treat all of God's creatures with kindness and respect. Our pet is well cared for and loved as a member of our family."

Since his release from prison in 2009, Vick has worked with The Humane Society of the United States to speak out against animal cruelty. He's made appearances at schools and spoken to students about the dangers of being involved in dogfighting. Vick says that commitment will continue.

"This is an opportunity to break the cycle," Vick said. "To that end, I will continue to honor my commitment to animal welfare and be an instrument of positive change."

 

[Cheesebeef]

Imagine being so bitter and old that you’re triggered by a jersey and dog instead of being happy the guy is actually a great human being. Not everyone in the Cardinals organization can be a drunk, sexual harasser, or a tyrant that abuses employees.

So on brand for this board.

Not being able to just say… “yeah, this is a stupid move Kyler’s part” is so on brand for you.

 

[kerouac9]

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Or maybe there are other motives for wearing that jersey with one of his two dogs in the picture. Vick is allowed to own dogs again after doing a lot to bring awareness to the horrific act of dog fighting. His story is disgusting and was a horrific event, but I believe in second chances and redemption and Vick did what he was asked, plus more, since he was able to get his lifetime ban from owning animals lifted.

DOES HE HAVE TWO DOGS??? #wheresswoosh

 

[SECTION 11]

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DOES HE HAVE TWO DOGS??? #wheresswoosh

The dingo at your baby.

 

[SECTION 11]

8 your baby.

 

[slanidrac16]

Time to step away from this thread. Ridiculous.

 

[DVontel]

I forgot we won & I’m not even saying that for interactions lmao

 

[602 Native]

Not being able to just say… “yeah, this is a stupid move Kyler’s part” is so on brand for you.

I’m sure you were part of the Instagram mob as well.

Zero wrong with anything K1 is doing in that pic and more importantly K1 has a spotless image in the Phoenix community unlike the cornholio Bidwill.

 

[AZ Native]

I’m a dog guy and this is a nothing burger IMO.

Don't tell your dog that.

 

[kerouac9]

K1 has a spotless image in the Phoenix community

I dunno bro. People I talk to seem to still think he’s a surly loser.

 

[PDXChris]

I would love Baker….

I'd take him over Kyler right now, as long a we get Tampa's OC too!

 

[PDXChris]

I dunno bro. People I talk to seem to still think he’s a surly loser.

That's his perception up here too. To be fair, Seattle has owned him, so they only see him in those games.

 

[PDXChris]

Came across, it was done 2 years ago and feels much worse now.

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[602 Native]

I dunno bro. People I talk to seem to still think he’s a surly loser.

People in retirement homes and the local elks club don’t count.

 

[BritCard]

Does Kyler get credit for McBride being a top 3 TE in the league?

Trey works in the areas that Kyler likes to throw to. Trey being great is a consequence of Kyler sucking with WR's and not being able to read a defense or go through reads. Trey is Kyler's reliable comfort blanket.

 

[BritCard]

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These are not "big time throws". They are other QB's normal throws. They just look big time for Kyler.

All of these throws were when we were up 17. All of us already said he played well when we were up big, he often does. Until he threw the INT. He's often the same way when were down big and the pressure is off and he can play screw it football.

But his butthole puckers when the pressure is on and when games are close. He's the one choosing to play it safe with 5 yard check downs. And that's when most football is played.

 

[BritCard]

Came across, it was done 2 years ago and feels much worse now.

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This is exactly what I've been saying. All this is spot on. It's still exactly the same. Everyone needs to watch this.

It's never getting fixed. We're in year 7 and he's still not reading defenses, he's pre determining his throws, he's not going through reads. It's over.

Also this.

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[BritCard]

For what it's worth I don't have an issue with the Vick thing.

It's easy to see why a mobile black QB will be a big Vick fan, and well, that's just his dog. I'm sure he didn't connect the two things.

On him as a person, we didn't really know him until recently, he did very little media until after Kliff left. He seems a nice enough guy off the field, although I'm not a fan of his sullen mood on the sideline.

My only issue with Kyler is he's not a good QB. He's not an NFL level QB. His obvious limitation have been masked by a good arm and his legs, but he just can't run a proper NFL offense. He can't sit in the pocket and go through his reads, he can't diagnose defenses, he can't take a hit for the team. He plays backyard football.

I want him gone because we will always be a mediocre team at best while he is here. And he will never win a playoff game. You just can't win playoff games if you cannot do these basic quarterback things.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

He can't sit in the pocket and go through his reads, he can't diagnose defenses, he can't take a hit for the team. He plays backyard football.

This

Unfortunately he still hasn't shown the ability to read a defense or stand in the pocket

He doesn't even try to move in the pocket and bails at the first sign of pressure

This last game he had opportunities to move up in the pocket and his first instinct was to scramble backwards and try to run around the pressure

 

[oaken1]

Don't tell your dog that.

I showed that picture to my hound and all she said was, "I can take'em both"