Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[Stout]

For you Geno Smith over K1 lovers.
Don’t ever come with this chump ever again.

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Again, doing yourself no favors at all.

 

[oaken1]

Again, doing yourself no favors at all.

They just gotta digdeeeeep to find an nfl QB that makes kyler look good.
So now they pick on a career backup that had 8 years in the league before he earned a starting job.
With the Raiders...the team that dumped Carr for Jimmy G, then dumped Jimmy G for Aiden O'Connell,...and finally found Geno because nobody else was available that already knew coach Pete's system and could carry them to a top 5 pick

 

[602 Native]

They just gotta digdeeeeep to find an nfl QB that makes kyler look good.
So now they pick on a career backup that had 8 years in the league before he earned a starting job.
With the Raiders...the team that dumped Carr for Jimmy G, then dumped Jimmy G for Aiden O'Connell,...and finally found Geno because nobody else was available that already knew coach Pete's system and could carry them to a top 5 pick

LOL people were clamoring for this clown over K1 in this thread just last season.

You guys are too funny.

I also think it’s super funny that you mock the Raiders QB struggles as a Cardinals fan. Once again proving you people have zero self awareness of who we are as a fanbase.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Again nothing to do with his height and all to do with his arm. Look at the throw Russ made to Nabers on Sunday. Kyler doesn’t have that zip anymore. I’d suspect the organization and the rest of the NFL have the data too on his velocity.

 

[602 Native]

Again nothing to do with his height and all to do with his arm. Look at the throw Russ made to Nabers on Sunday. Kyler doesn’t have that zip anymore. I’d suspect the organization and the rest of the NFL have the data too on his velocity.

People need to stop comparing MHJ to neighbors. MHJ ain’t Nabers and Nabers is well ahead of the dude.

 

[BritCard]

For you Geno Smith over K1 lovers.
Don’t ever come with this chump ever again.

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Have you watched Kyler's last 2 games?

Geno has 578 yards at 7.5 YPA in a new scheme he's still learning and with bad receivers.

Kyler has 383 at 7.1 YPA in year 3 of the same scheme.

 

[GatorAZ]

People need to stop comparing MHJ to neighbors. MHJ ain’t Nabers and Nabers is well ahead of the dude.

Don’t need to look at the stats either. He’s different.
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[BritCard]

People need to stop comparing MHJ to neighbors. MHJ ain’t Nabers and Nabers is well ahead of the dude.

Wait, Russ being able to throw a 60 yard moon ball is because of Nabers?

 

[602 Native]

Again, doing yourself no favors at all.

They just gotta digdeeeeep to find an nfl QB that makes kyler look good.
So now they pick on a career backup that had 8 years in the league before he earned a starting job.
With the Raiders...the team that dumped Carr for Jimmy G, then dumped Jimmy G for Aiden O'Connell,...and finally found Geno because nobody else was available that already knew coach Pete's system and could carry them to a top 5 pick

Have you watched Kyler's last 2 games?

Geno has 578 yards at 7.5 YPA in a new scheme he's still learning and with bad receivers.

Kyler has 383 at 7.1 YPA in year 3 of the same scheme.

LOL

 

[BritCard]

LOL

I'm just not sure how disingenuous you have to be to take the OBVIOUSLY better last 4 years of Geno Smith and start trying to clown on people because of 2 games in a new scheme.

Especially when Kyler has been ass for the same 2 weeks.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Baker is 6 feet even IIRC.

Again nothing to do with his height and all to do with his arm. Look at the throw Russ made to Nabers on Sunday. Kyler doesn’t have that zip anymore. I’d suspect the organization and the rest of the NFL have the data too on his velocity.

You keep posting this man, and maybe he's not throwing quite as hard as his rookie year. But look at a couple of throws from the GB game last year. one to mcbride at 13:20 and especially the one to wilson at 13:54.

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Plenty of velocity on those.

The throws at 16:00 25:30, 26:20 37:50? all lasers.

Please stop posting that his arm is cooked because that is terrifying to the Murray faithful.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Baker is 6 feet even IIRC.


You keep posting this man, and maybe he's not throwing quite as hard as his rookie year. But look at a couple of throws from the GB game last year. one to mcbride at 13:20 and especially the one to wilson at 13:54.

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Plenty of velocity on those.

The throws at 16:00 25:30, 26:20 37:50? all lasers.

Please stop posting that his arm is cooked because that is terrifying to the Murray faithful.

you're an oklahoma guy - would you take baker or murray (today)

 

[WisconsinCard]

I am giving a self imposed moratorium from this thread. I've made my stance no need for me to interject any longer. It's getting ridiculous comparing stats for one game and stating "I win". I agree to disagree with the Murray crowd.

I'm out...

 

[602 Native]

I kicked the Geno Smith fan club nest and it gets spicy.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

you're an oklahoma guy - would you take baker or murray (today)

what a cruel question my friend!

I guess if I had to choose one guy to win a game to save my life, I'd go with Mayfield, since he's been better in high-stakes situations.

I still think there's a reasonable chance Murray's career will eventually eclipse Baker's.

Baker awful at the end in CLE, and we're CLE with shoes (referencing the old saying that Arkansas is Mississippi with shoes (i.e. only slightly better)).

 

[urs]

I kicked the Geno Smith fan club nest and it gets spicy.

Could you imagine the epic meltdown here if Kyler threw the ball away out of bounds on 4th down so he wouldn't throw another INT

 

[BritCard]

Simple question

What's more likely?

Kliff was bad, but is now good.
Petzing is bad
Marvin Harrison, #4 overall pick and a player everyone thought was generational is bad
Every WR we had in the last 6 seasons has been meh except Nuk

Or

The QB they all have in common is bad.

Which makes most sense?

 

[DVontel]

Simple question

What's more likely?

Kliff was bad, but is now good.
Petzing is bad
Marvin Harrison, #4 overall pick and a player everyone thought was generational is bad
Every WR we had in the last 6 seasons has been meh except Nuk

Or

The QB they all have in common is bad.

Which makes most sense?

Does Kyler get credit for McBride being a top 3 TE in the league?

 

[DVontel]

wasn’t realistic, but fully agree with @Chris_Sanders saying Bowers should have been the pick over Marv & Nabers

 

[TJ]

Oof, Kyler. Worse decision making than his INTs

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[DVontel]

Every WR we had in the last 6 seasons has been meh except Nuk

Also, I feel like your only example here would be Christian Kirk, & that season looked like it turned out to be an outlier than anything.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Oof, Kyler. Worse decision making than his INTs

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This guy is an idiot.

 

[kerouac9]

Does Kyler get credit for McBride being a top 3 TE in the league?

Is he tho, or does he get a ton of targets? Wouldn’t he… score more TDs and have a higher YPC if he were there?

Oof, Kyler. Worse decision making than his INTs

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Kyler’s level of self-awareness is really trying for this fan.

 

[AZ Native]

Oof, Kyler. Worse decision making than his INTs

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[DVontel]

Is he tho, or does he get a ton of targets?

Sure. Still has to get open & catch the ball, though. It’s Kittle, Bowers, McBride, & Kraft in the top tier.

Wouldn’t he… score more TDs and have a higher YPC if he were there?

Julio Jones barely scored TDs & still was a top 3 WR in his prime by the general consensus.