cardinals2025
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then why do some qbs get better as the season goes - or not fall off - you come up with all these reasons as to why kyler struggled after the bye but the first step is acceptance - admitting he has a problem - then and only then can your healing begin
kyler murray is an above average quarterback who hasn't learned how to win big games in the nfl yet - and that's okay - saying it is okay - we are in a safe space - this isn't just kyler's make or break year it's also (as you have eluded to in several threads) his best chance to make the playoffs - the team was so stacked nobody knew who we'd draft
you keep trying to convince us kyler murray is better than we think - you must be new here cuz this is asfn - where minds rarely change but we debate things all the same
0 QB's in the NFC West got better in the 2nd half of last season. None of them improved.
Darnold has a career 0-6 record in January btw.
Did you see the 12-6 game with Stafford and Purdy?
If you are asking why the top 5 QB's play better, that speaks for itself. Especially when they have the best defenses to support them almost every game they play.
The issue for Kyler is not the month. Looks at his STATS instead of the record. The change is minimal for his career.
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HIS PROBLEM IS TWOFOLD.
1. WHERE HIS INTS HAPPEN. WHICH MAKES THEIR IMPACT WORSE.
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2. In 2024, him and our offense sucked in this specific situation. He was decent in his other years while trailing, but not last year.
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I am sorry but in this case these stats don't lie. Its wasn't a 2nd half of the season issue. We couldn't recover vs BUF or DET either which everyone forgets.
At one point our offense was last in 4th quarter scoring while being 1st in 1st quarter scoring. This was an entire year this was an issue with Petzing and Kyler.
So yes Kyler struggled vs good defenses at the beginning and end of last season. You know what doesn't help? When your defense is below average.
Last time Kyler had a defense that will be as good as this year was 2021 when we won 11 games. And that defense was only ranked 11 in ppg.
2025 defense could definitely be better, especially when the 2024 defense was similar to the 2020 defense but just played a tougher schedule.
In 2021, the offense had LESS OVERALL YARDS than in 2020 but scored MORE PTS. The defense improving was part of the reason why.
2024 8-9 was a better defense than in = 2020 8-8. I am planning on repeating this until someone wants to challenge it.
SOS (STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE)
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And the reason why I don't want to make excuses and say our oline has issues or we could use another WR is that should not prevent us from making the playoffs and winning a playoff game.
Kyler doesn't have any reasonable excuse this year besides getting a serious injury again.
For the first time in his career EVER he has ALL THESE THINGS:
1. A coach he likes that actively supports him and they have a good relationship.
2. A good GM.
3. The owner allowing these good things to happen spending money this offseason.
4. A top 10 defense
5. Plenty of weapons on offense.
6. Maturity and a sense of leadership.
There is no excuse. I want him gone if we go 8 or 9 wins and miss the playoffs and frankly losing in the 1st round would make me think about it too.
The stats and the talent we have say there is no more excuses.
This division is not overpowering. This team has the talent to win 10 games easily and that should be enough because the Rams aren't winning 11.
The Rams are the only ones who have to play PHI, DET and BAL. They have the hardest opponents in our division this year.
Seattle is not winning 11 in their first with a completely new team, coordinator and QB.
Especially when they aren't going to sweep us this year and got lucky to beat CHI 6-3 and SF on 4th and 15 when Geno ran it in as time expired.
And SF is not going to win the division with the 28th ranked def last in ppg. Their def will get better but they are behind with aging, injury-prone stars.
They will remain the worst defense in our division because SEA, AZ and LAR also are all likely to get better defensively.
And the worst defense in the NFC west has never won the division.
You can easily get something like this:
AZ 10-7
SEA 9-8
LAR 9-8
SF 8-9
I think SEA can get the 3rd wildcard with a better divisional or conf record than LAR.
Playoffs Guess:
#1 PHI
#2 DET vs #7 SEA
#3 TB vs #6 WAS
#4 AZ vs #5 GB
And we probably end up losing in the 2nd round to PHI.
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