Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[HairZach]

If Washington was able to run Dan Snyder out of town, kind of makes you wonder why phoenix can’t run out bidwill and force him to sell if

Snyder got caught stealing from the rest of the league, he had a second set of books and was deliberately underreporting revenue to avoid sharing it. The other owners forced him out.

 

[football karma]

Snyder got caught stealing from the rest of the league, he had a second set of books and was deliberately underreporting revenue to avoid sharing it with the league. The other owners forced him out.

that, and pimping his teams cheerleading squad out to big sponsors

but mostly stealing from his fellow owners

 

[602 Native]

Imagine thinking we ever had a great line this season.

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[602 Native]

that, and pimping his teams cheerleading squad out to big sponsors

but mostly stealing from his fellow owners

Didn’t know about the cheerleader thing. Were the cheerleaders in on it?

 

[Zalixar]

Didn’t know about the cheerleader thing. Were the cheerleaders in on it?

Jesus no. Read up on it.

 

[602 Native]

Jesus no. Read up on it.

Let’s not act like women won’t do things for money.

It was a legitimate question brother and have zero reason to actually read up on it.

 

[Zalixar]

Let’s not act like women won’t do things for money.

It was a legitimate question brother and have zero reason to actually read up on it.

Okay, but that's quite the first assumption when the convo is showing Snyder as a bad owner.

It was exploitation and without consent (and general sexist workplace). Sure sometimes women do things for money, but they are also commonly taken advantage of/SA'ed, etc
.

 

[Adrian]

Vikings urged to avoid $230.5 million QB who could ruin everything

The Minnesota Vikings might have a chance to pick up Arizona Cardinals QB Kyler Murray, but one writer is urging them to avoid that disaster at all costs.

thevikingage.com

 

[Adrian]

NFC West Rival Named Best Fit for Cardinals QB Kyler Murray

The Arizona Cardinals could part ways with Kyler Murray, and a divisional rival could make sense.

www.si.com

 

[Dback Jon]

that, and pimping his teams cheerleading squad out to big sponsors

but mostly stealing from his fellow owners

He would have survived the pimping. But money is the only line most will draw

 

[HairZach]

Didn’t know about the cheerleader thing. Were the cheerleaders in on it?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/sports/redskins-cheerleaders-nfl.html

There was a mandatory trip to Costa Rica for the cheerleaders, that involved wealthy sponsors being promised access to the cheerleaders. The team took the cheerleaders ID/passports, forced them to participate in a topless photoshoot (Where the sponsors had behind the scenes access), and go on individual "dates" at a night club with wealthy team sponsors that had bought "premium packages". They didnt actually have to sleep with the clients, but still beyond wrong. The cheerleaders werent paid a dime for any of their work during this trip. It took a while to come out because the Redskins used to force their cheerleaders to sign NDAs when they joined the team.

• Dennis Greene, former president of business operations, who implored female sales staff to wear low-cut blouses, tight skirts and flirt with wealthy suiteholders, according to five former employees, including Applegate. Greene’s 17-year career with the club ended in 2018 amid a scandal over the revelation that he had sold access to Redskins cheerleaders — including attendance at a bikini calendar photo shoot in Costa Rica — as part of premium suite packages. Greene declined to comment.

It happened in 2013 and became a story 7 years before Snyder was forced out. It got pinned on a yes man a few rungs down the ladder, it had nothing to do with Snyder's exit.

 

[602 Native]

Okay, but that's quite the first assumption when the convo is showing Snyder as a bad owner.

It was exploitation and without consent (and general sexist workplace). Sure sometimes women do things for money, but they are also commonly taken advantage of/SA'ed, etc
.

Not reallly.

Snyder was forced out and I knew that.

I had no idea about any of the cheerleader stuff and was a reasonable question given the instagram Only Fans climate we live in today.

 

[602 Native]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/sports/redskins-cheerleaders-nfl.html

There was a mandatory trip to Costa Rica for the cheerleaders, that involved wealthy sponsors being promised access to the cheerleaders. The team took the cheerleaders ID/passports, forced them to participate in a topless photoshoot (Where the sponsors had behind the scenes access), and go on individual "dates" at a night club with wealthy team sponsors that had bought "premium packages". They didnt actually have to sleep with the clients, but still beyond wrong. The cheerleaders werent paid a dime for any of their work during this trip. It took a while to come out because the Redskins used to force their cheerleaders to sign NDAs when they joined the team.

• Dennis Greene, former president of business operations, who implored female sales staff to wear low-cut blouses, tight skirts and flirt with wealthy suiteholders, according to five former employees, including Applegate. Greene’s 17-year career with the club ended in 2018 amid a scandal over the revelation that he had sold access to Redskins cheerleaders — including attendance at a bikini calendar photo shoot in Costa Rica — as part of premium suite packages. Greene declined to comment.

It happened in 2013 and became a story 7 years before Snyder was forced out. It got pinned on a yes man a few rungs down the ladder, it had nothing to do with Snyder's exit.

Wow crazy

 

[slanidrac16]

Anybody hoping for Malik Willis will be happy to know he’s probably going to follow the new head coach from Green Bay to Miami.
But hey, we probably could afford him anyway, right?

 

[football karma]

Anybody hoping for Malik Willis will be happy to know he’s probably going to follow the new head coach from Green Bay to Miami.
But hey, we probably could afford him anyway, right?

Miami is pretty cap constrained

currently over the cap by $38mm. Doesnt mean they cant do it, but it would be hard to fit a QB contract in there while at the same time dealing with Tua's contract.

 

[Shane]

Remember when people on this board laughed at us for saying that Darnold is a better quarterback than Kyler Murray? Lol I do

 

[PACardsFan]

Remember when people on this board laughed at us for saying that Darnold is a better quarterback than Kyler Murray? Lol I do

Put Murray on the Seahawks & Darnold on the Cardinals this year & the end result might look a little different.

 

[kerouac9]

Put Murray on the Seahawks & Darnold on the Cardinals this year & the end result might look a little different.

Neither team is in the playoffs

 

[Zalixar]

Neither team is in the playoffs

Thinking the same thing, haha. Maybe a 1st/2nd round exit for Hawks

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Remember when people on this board laughed at us for saying that Darnold is a better quarterback than Kyler Murray? Lol I do

Trevor Lawrence too.

 

[Adrian]

How Dante Moore staying at Oregon affects Kyler Murray, Cards

Murray's trade value goes up with Moore staying in school, but Arizona will wait for input from its next coach.

www.espn.com

 

[Adrian]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25369636-fresh-nfl-rumors-kyler-murrays-trade-value-after-dante-moores-decision-ahead-2026-draft

 

[PACardsFan]

Put Murray on the Seahawks & Darnold on the Cardinals this year & the end result might look a little different.

My point is that when you’re drafted by a crappy organization, your chances of reaching your potential are extremely limited. Darnold looked like trash in trashy organizations. Murray has never looked like trash, even though he’s playing for a trashy organization. We’ll just have to wait and see where he goes & what he does when he escapes this dumpster fire.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Murray has never looked like trash

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[Adrian]

NFL rumors: Cardinals citing Geno Smith return in early Kyler Murray trade talks

As the Cardinals begin seriously considering a Kyler Murray trade, they're looking to get a return similar to Geno Smith's.

clutchpoints.com