Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[Crimson Warrior]

hmmm... I looked into this a little more and there was a more recent study done in 2021 that supports the idea that generally, more money does make you happier! wow!

Does more money correlate with greater happiness? | Penn Today

Reconciling previously contradictory results, researchers from Penn and Princeton find a steady association between larger incomes and greater happiness for most people but a rise and plateau for an unhappy minority.

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So, I stand corrected, and let's all go get that money!!

 

[Chopper0080]

I wonder whether Payton would bring him in to "back up" Nix? Nix has been kinda lousy and Payton has experience making a short QB a hall of famer.

Of course, Payton would need to believe that Murray would completely change his stripes and commit to studying film and working his ass off outside the weight room. Maybe being benched and traded would open Murray's eyes, and he'd finally buy into a coach with Payton's gravitas.

No offensive coach believes Kyler is an answer at QB. Nothing he does is sustainable.

 

[ajcardfan]

No offensive coach believes Kyler is an answer at QB. Nothing he does is sustainable.

IDK. Somebody is going to look at what they have got, look at what's out there and say "You know, I think Murray is our best chance."

Who? I have no idea. But Kyler is not out of the league. He has a higher passer rating this season than Purdy, Penix, Burrow, Caleb Williams and several other QBs starting today.

I mean look at Justin Fields. He got TWO shots at getting reclaimed as a starter. No way nobody ever thinks about Kyler again.

 

[GatorAZ]

No offensive coach believes Kyler is an answer at QB. Nothing he does is sustainable.

If there’s one constant in the NFL it’s mid QB’s getting chance after chance.

 

[kerouac9]

IDK. Somebody is going to look at what they have got, look at what's out there and say "You know, I think Murray is our best chance."

Who? I have no idea. But Kyler is not out of the league. He has a higher passer rating this season than Purdy, Penix, Burrow, Caleb Williams and several other QBs starting today.

I mean look at Justin Fields. He got TWO shots at getting reclaimed as a starter. No way nobody ever thinks about Kyler again.

If there’s one constant in the NFL it’s mid QB’s getting chance after chance.

This is what 95% hopium looks like.

 

[PDXChris]

No offensive coach believes Kyler is an answer at QB. Nothing he does is sustainable.

He is better than Anthony Richardson and Indy is a team that can win and now need a QB next year. He will have nearly 12 dome games with Indy. Could be a good fit for him as a stop gap.

 

[kerouac9]

He is better than Anthony Richardson and Indy is a team that can win and now need a QB next year. He will have nearly 12 dome games with Indy. Could be a good fit for him as a stop gap.

Steichen would probably trust Mac Jones more

 

[PDXChris]

Steichen would probably trust Mac Jones more

You are not wrong, but he is also under contract next year and with Prudy's injury history, I do not see them letting their $4 million insurance policy go. They can get out of Prudy's deal after next season, so Jones could be their guy after that too.

 

[kerouac9]

You are not wrong, but he is also under contract next year and with Prudy's injury history, I do not see them letting their $4 million insurance policy go. They can get out of Prudy's deal after next season, so Jones could be their guy after that too.

Shanahan can do it with anyone. Trade Mac Jones for a 3rd and see if you can fix Richardson or someone.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Shanahan can do it with anyone. Trade Mac Jones for a 3rd and see if you can fix Richardson or someone.

i'd be all about some mac jones - the wordplay alone

 

[PDXChris]

Shanahan can do it with anyone. Trade Mac Jones for a 3rd and see if you can fix Richardson or someone.

Indy might think the same and see him as a system QB, no?

 

[kerouac9]

Indy might think the same and see him as a system QB, no?

Better than nothing. Shanahan has fixed other QBs before.

Daniel Jones is a system QB. That’s really all Indy needs.

 

[Dback Jon]

Just a reminder that last year Kyler outscored the Rams 50-20

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

As I said earlier on this thread: Kyler ain’t the problem but he also ain’t the solution.

 

[PDXChris]

As I said earlier on this thread: Kyler ain’t the problem but he also ain’t the solution.

This post should be pinned!

 

[krazy2k]

As I said earlier on this thread: Kyler ain’t the problem but he also ain’t the solution.

He could be part of the solution if he actually watched game film and prepared properly each week. However, that ship has sailed.

 

[Zalixar]

He could be part of the solution if he actually watched game film and prepared properly each week. However, that ship has sailed.

Why would he need to? He sees so much...in his head.

 

[DVontel]

Kyler really lucked out lmao

 

[Shane]

As I said earlier on this thread: Kyler ain’t the problem but he also ain’t the solution.

He’s def part of the problem. Is he the primary problem absolutely not but he’s definitely one of them.

 

[AZ Native]

Just a reminder that last year Kyler outscored the Rams 50-20

Kyler played great. The defense was great. We had 231 yards rushing. Things change.

 

[602 Native]

KDS crew won’t like this

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[602 Native]

i'd be all about some mac jones - the wordplay alone

This means Mac Jones is absolutely out.

Anyone that backed the Jacoby show should not be taken seriously about what QB to chose.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Just a reminder that last year Kyler outscored the Rams 50-20

He is also 2-8 all time against them. So all that and a couple bucks will get you all the coffee you want at Denny's.

 

[football karma]

my unpopular opinion:

Kyler can be a B+ kinda QB in this league and can win games, but has to have a really good supporting cast around him. You see it in his productivity: he is like the perfect barometer for the quality of the Cardinal roster on offense.

Doesnt mean he should stay -- that ship has sailed. And he isnt for everyone.

I do think he is probably best in a more spread style scheme where there are fewer bodies around the ball / more passing choices immediately after the snap. Its a legit question on if that kinda scheme can even work in the NFL.

Kiffs scheme got tailored in Wash -- and it seemingly doesnt work anymore

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Cardinals May Have To Eat Salary To Create Trade Market For QB Kyler Murray; Jacoby Brissett Seen As Trade Candidate?
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2025/12/cardinals-may-have-to-eat-salary-to-create-trade-market-for-qb-kyler-murray-jacoby-brissett-seen-as-trade-candidate