Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

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Then what the hell happened to our line since last season?

Was Klayton Adams that good?

Did a healthy James Conner make the line look better than it was?

Same personnel but we are much worse.

Teams rush vs a static QB much different to a mobile one. Line is still adjusting to a very different QB. Also lost Tip.
 
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Then what the hell happened to our line since last season?

Was Klayton Adams that good?

Did a healthy James Conner make the line look better than it was?

Same personnel but we are much worse.
Yes and yes. Also, counting on Adams and an unhealthy Hernandez on one side of Fro and a low-end G in Brown on the other side, was suicidal.
 

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Also speaks to how great PJJ is. I was worried his blocking possibly falling off with a statue as opposed to a running threat at QB, but nope, still playing really good ball.
There is probably an argument that he is a top 10 LT in the league right now. I have also been impressed how he has held up.
 

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Well if Ben and his 462 followers says so!

Apparently he thinks other teams can't evaluate Murray based on his 7 years of film, but instead will decide his value based on whether the Cardinals, against all credibility, announce that he'll start again when healthy. :biglaugh:
 

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Some of you fall for this crap year in and year out. Others here have been sounding the alarm bells and saying careful what you wish for.

Now JG and MO have once again shot the bed and now will continue to prove they have no idea what they are doing
 

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Some of you fall for this crap year in and year out. Others here have been sounding the alarm bells and saying careful what you wish for.

Now JG and MO have once again shot the bed and now will continue to prove they have no idea what they are doing
KM has 1 winning season in 7 years bro. He isn't the guy, and never will be. Time to rip the band aid off.
 

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KM has 1 winning season in 7 years bro. He isn't the guy, and never will be. Time to rip the band aid off.
This is the same type of rhetoric when MO couldn’t get Allen back.

No one is saying keep K1 the problem is they haven’t done anything to move the guy and now we’re gonna cut him and get nothing. Well done MO
 

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This is the same type of rhetoric when MO couldn’t get Allen back.

No one is saying keep K1 the problem is they haven’t done anything to move the guy and now we’re gonna cut him and get nothing. Well done MO
Eh. I think we came into this season feeling good that Kyler could regain where he was. As you and others have relentlessly said, Kyler isn’t the only problem and maybe isn’t even the MAIN problem with the Arizona Cardinals.

But he is the most visible problem. MOJG did everything they could to Kyler-proof the roster and that’s either impossible or they’re not good enough.

Unfortunately, Kyler was so bad before his injury that he’d already cratered his trade value to anyone who realistically assessed the situation. Then Brissett came in and showed how little Kyler was contributing to the functioning of the offense and also may be dragging it down. So what can they do?

JG said Kyler was our starter when healthy and everyone got all mad at him.
 

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Yeah I couldn't believe JG acknowledged he'd prefer Brissett to remain the starter even if Murray were healthy enough to play. It's like c'mon man, some things aren't supposed to be said aloud, especially to the media. That boneheaded comment might have literally cost this team millions of dollars and a potentially higher draft pick compensation.
 

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Yeah I couldn't believe JG acknowledged he'd prefer Brissett to remain the starter even if Murray were healthy enough to play. It's like c'mon man, some things aren't supposed to be said aloud, especially to the media. That boneheaded comment might have literally cost this team millions of dollars and a potentially higher draft pick compensation.
The whole world, including every GM, could see Murray's deficiencies laid bare as soon as Brissett took over. The only thing Gannon accomplished by (briefly) proclaiming Murray as the starter was to make himself look like a fool.
 

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