Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

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[Stout]

Marv doesn’t seem like that type of dude.

Agreed. It is indicative that he says this for JB and didn't for KM, but no, I don't think it's shade per se.

 

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[kerouac9]

I know we find this hard to believe but it makes sense. Either way you’re going to pay him. Brissett lesser salary balances out that burden.
Pay him to stay and not be the starter or pay him to leave .

Its
Pretty clear from
The actual quote that Schrager is just speculating here and saying that paying Kyler that money isn’t unimaginable anymore after what happened with Russ

 

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Passing DVOA up from 24th to 11th under JB

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[JCSunsfan]

Cutting him would be incredibly stupid. He still has value, but his time is up here. Someone will surely give something up, especially considering the other QB options this offseason.

You have that one right.

 

[JCSunsfan]

There are a lot of teams out there who will believe that that the Cardinals did not put him in a position to win. The Darnold, Mayfair, stories will make them consider him. I could see him traded to the Raiders or some team like that.

 

[TJ]

Interesting comparison to Jay Cutler

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Interesting comparison to Jay Cutler

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If there's one thing I'm sure about it's that he cares about football.

His problem, from what I can see, is that to get better you have to recognise the flaws in your game and work on them. He was on the radio after week 2 or 3, I think it was Wolf and Luke, but one of AZsports, and was asked about his downfield passing issues and he outright said he has no accuracy issues. Despite statistically being the least accurate downfield passer in the last 3 years. There's the old "I see everything" quote from the NYT years back too.

This lack of self awareness and belief that he's already great is his issue. I think that he thinks he's already good enough to win superbowls and it's just the talent around him.

The greats know they can always get better. They know their weaknesses and work on them relentlessly.

I think Kyler's issue is he doesn't think he has any weaknesses.

 

[kerouac9]

Interesting comparison to Jay Cutler

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Bruh some of us have been making this comparison for YEARS

 

[PDXChris]

If there's one thing I'm sure about it's that he cares about football.

His problem, from what I can see, is that to get better you have to recognise the flaws in your game and work on them. He was on the radio after week 2 or 3, I think it was Wolf and Luke, but one of AZsports, and was asked about his downfield passing issues and he outright said he has no accuracy issues. Despite statistically being the least accurate downfield passer in the last 3 years. There's the old "I see everything" quote from the NYT years back too.

This lack of self awareness and belief that he's already great is his issue. I think that he thinks he's already good enough to win superbowls and it's just the talent around him.

The greats know they can always get better. They know their weaknesses and work on them relentlessly.

I think Kyler's issue is he doesn't think he has any weaknesses.

Your best assessment of him. And while debatable, I definitely won't argue with any of this.

 

[Ronin]

Patrick: Murray 'doesn't strike me as a leader'

Dan Patrick analyzes all things Kyler Murray, questioning the timeline of the situation, sharing why giving unproven quarterbacks huge contracts is risky and predicting the Cardinals will have a new quarterback in 2026.

www.nbcsports.com

 

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[GatorAZ]

Dude has 1200 followers and his own...checks notes, YouTube show.

Every pro athlete’s “camp” cares about optics so I’d say it’s a fair take.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Every pro athlete’s “camp” cares about optics so I’d say it’s a fair take.

Even the mouth of Sauron, Ron Wolfley, said the IR move smelled fishy today. So did everyone else on state radio 98.7.

If people believe 100% the move to IR was all about an injury… one mind you that has NEVER even been diagnosed/disclosed as to what it actually is publicly… I have some waterfront property in Yuma to sell them.

 

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[daves]

“To appease his camp” oof

Well if the guy has 1300 followers, then it must be true!

 

[some dumb guy]

Even the mouth of Sauron, Ron Wolfley, said the IR move smelled fishy today. So did everyone else on state radio 98.7.

If people believe 100% the move to IR was all about an injury… one mind you that has NEVER even been diagnosed/disclosed as to what it actually is publicly… I have some waterfront property in Yuma to sell them.

Oh, I hear the beach's are beautiful down there...LOL

 

[Ronin]

Cardinals Corner: Is Arizona's Kyler Murray era in its final stages?

The Arizona Cardinals will be led by Jacoby Brissett, not Kyler Murray, against the Seattle Seahawks in Week 10 and beyond after the team placed the franchise signal caller on IR Wednesday. What does it mean for Murray's future with the franchise? And how can Brissett and the Cardinals knock off...

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[football karma]

If people believe 100% the move to IR was all about an injury…

all of these things can be true at the same time:

Its a real injury.

If he was playing well, they don't put him on IR and bring him back at first chance (which could have been Dallas)

But since he isn't playing well and is still "injured" -- IR is a face-saving move for him.

 

[BritCard]

The offense has had only 3 total 3 and Outs with Brissett at QB and two of those were in the 1st quarter vs the Colts while he was shaking the rust off.

Under Kyler's last 3 we had,

Titans - 5
Seahawks -2
Niners - 3

 

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The difference is JJ wasn't taken 1 overall, and I doubt the Vikings put up with it for 7 years.

What's strange to me about McCarthy is this is who he was in college - dink and dunk based off a strong run game. I never saw the NFL talent.

Same. He won at Michigan but THEY won because of the run game and an other worldly defense. I was shocked to see him climbing in the draft. My Michigan alum buddies hated me for my takes on jJ. It’s still too early to say he’s Kyler (he’s only started 3 games?). But I still stand by my original assessment.