Kyler Murray Debacle Thread
- Thread starter Chris_Sanders
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Put Kyler on IR, let him get healthy and move him this offseason for what ever you can. JB is serviceable enough to not embarrass us, but let's not pretend he will lead us to more than 1-2 wins the rest of the way. And that's fine.
As I posted in the game day thread, we are now 1-9 without Kyler, with the only win being against a depleted Cowboys.
We have a single win when Kyler doesn't play since JG took over this team. Its not a small sample size either
JG Record - 14-26
Kyler - 13-17
Josh Dobbs - 1-7
JB - 0-1
Tune 0-1
As I posted in the game day thread, we are now 1-9 without Kyler, with the only win being against a depleted Cowboys.
We have a single win when Kyler doesn't play since JG took over this team. Its not a small sample size either
JG Record - 14-26
Kyler - 13-17
Josh Dobbs - 1-7
JB - 0-1
Tune 0-1
I appreciate Jacoby hanging tough in the pocket today. I think clearly he's earned the start next week.
602 Native
ASFN Lifer
Also not happening but dreaming is free
We are noe entering the irrational post phase that we saw when K1 tore his ACL.
None of this stuff you guys have wet dreams about will be happening
Kinda like Kyler becoming an MVP level QB and Super Bowl winner.
AZ Native
Living is Easy with Eyes Closed
I can see it now. Kyler, though still suffering from his foot injury, comes back next week and single-handedly wins the game and gets sweet revenge for that terrible loss to the Pack in 2021.
What is irrational about what I said? Facts please? I brought facts showing Kyler is better, but its my opinion that its time to move on.
I think that will happen, but after he is traded.
I feel like we need a poll of where he js next season and list all 32 teams.
@Shane Can we do this? Lock it in 7 days and see who is right next season?
602 Native
ASFN Lifer
That would require him not to be a Cardinal
602 Native
ASFN Lifer
602 Native
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That’s the best thing that could come from this.
That still doesn’t cure his main issue on this team a bad oline blocking up the middle and him being too small to stand in that pocket. It is by far his biggest issue.
It's an issue, but really not his biggest.
602 Native
ASFN Lifer
He isn’t going on IR unless he needs some type of surgery.JG has already come out and said K1 will start when he’s healthy.
602 Native
ASFN Lifer
Oh it’s for sure his biggest on this team.
That was the difference today between him and JB for sure.
If it's turf toe, he won't be healthy the rest of the season. He'll be managing pain. If we had a realistic shot at making the playoffs, I'd push for Kyler to play. We're not, so let him heal up and not mess that injury up more.
602 Native
ASFN Lifer
Trading him will be almost impossible if he doesn’t play. If he plays and gets hurt again then that is also problematic.
Cards are in a tough spot.
His biggest issue is he isn't patient in the pocket, pressure or not.
He doesn't let routes develop. Guys are running routes knowing Kyler's going to check it for 3 before they get a chance.
He's not comfortable in the pocket at all.
602 Native
ASFN Lifer
My guy what is the difference?
You’re saying he doesn’t let routes develop I said he won’t stand in a hectic pocket. It is the exact same thing.
Only because of the stupid and undeserved contract he’s signed to.
BirdGangThing
Murd Watcher
kyler is the most expensive contract on our books - we have to protect our investment - should rush him back - he should get surgery on the foot - just to be safe
It's the same hectic or not. He's just not comfortable in the pocket. Which is a pretty serious problem for a QB.
This is probably one of the more reasonable post that I've read today. Praising or Blaming Murray for today's loss is insane. The guy was a NON-factor.
Some are saying; " Jacoby hung tough in the pocket " or, " Jacoby threw for over 300 yards ". WHAT???? ( They Still Lost ). Some want to be RIGHT So bad that they've lost all common sense.
For those that want to Keep Kyler, something has to change ( You just can't keep thinking that the Cardinals lost but at least you like Kyler ) and, for those that want to get rid of Kyler, something else is broken with this organization other than Kyler ( You just can't keep thinking that you lost another game but at least it wasn't with Kyler ).
It's like some are missing the Forest because all the trees are blocking their view... SMH.. With or, Without Kyler Murray this season so far has been the same throughout the years more often than not.
Surgery for turf toe is rare and only in instances when there is a complete tear of the plantar plate ligament.
It takes over a year to recover.
