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Too much chagrin around here I’ve always said Larry is overrated in this category. Captain or no captain.

Larry was an amazing player, and he is a very nice dude but I don't think he is a leader of men, especially regarding football
He is a quite dude who has probably different interests then 95% of the nfl players and I guess he prefer to mix in the elite circles then being around some of his team mates
 

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There are different types of leadership. I wouldn’t go as far as to say Larry wasn’t a good leader. Just from what I read it seems he is the type of leader/teacher that leads by example. How he practices.. not taking vet days off at times.. help the younger guys when they have questions.. he expect you to self motivate yourself for a game.

Then you have some leaders who can fire up the team. Some people need that type of leadership. The Ray Lewis types.. Seems like that was what this team lacks in leadership..
 

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I thought KM yelling at Hop and other players was the example of being that fired up leader...
 

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Aside from money, could be a good indication of why Larry & Pat aren't currently Arizona Cardinals.
 

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Aside from money, could be a good indication of why Larry & Pat aren't currently Arizona Cardinals.

Leaders lead by example.... When PP21 and Fitz are drifting towards the bottom stat wise their leadership skills probably dont hold much water. Just my two cents.
 

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Watt is about D, since Chandler was out our D had only PP21 and Baker. PP21 isn't a leader, we all knew that already, and Baker isn't the veteran all listen to, mainly on the DLine they normally don't listen to this small players.

JJ Watt brings leadership to the table. Probably even one that is needed. I don't know if it is really all said and done. But we will see in december how it went.
 

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Watt is about D, since Chandler was out our D had only PP21 and Baker. PP21 isn't a leader, we all knew that already, and Baker isn't the veteran all listen to, mainly on the DLine they normally don't listen to this small players.

JJ Watt brings leadership to the table. Probably even one that is needed. I don't know if it is really all said and done. But we will see in december how it went.
So why was PP21 a captain then?
 

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Great question from cowherd about QBs and stars having a voice. Its unfortunate that the chain of command and roles has gotten so a** backwards in pro sports but the reality is that it is going that direction for good.
 
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