Keim on signing players with injuries

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  1. az jam

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    The bottom line is that the majority of players in the NFL have suffered injuries and have missed playing time especially offensive and defensive linemen.

    Few NFL players are injury free. Players are bigger and faster than ever. Football is a brutal sport and more injuries are occurring every year. Check the injury reserve list, it's larger than ever. IMO criticizing Keim for signing players that have had injuries is foolish as they all have especially the free agents. Players like Fitz and Patrick Peterson are really exceptions. Sadly that is not going to change.
     
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    Yeah, no, I'm going to vehemently disagree. He hasn't just signed regular players that have had regular injuries on the offensive line. He's signed/traded for OL players who have serious, continuous injury problems. See Gilbert. It really hurt us last year, and this year, he hasn't learned his lesson.
     
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    I disagree too. Our line has been way below average as far as health goes, IR, etc. I'd look at our training program and our player evaluation. Durability needs to be much higher on Keims appraisals
    He keeps signing the same kind of injury-prone OL guys, not just guys that have been injured and it keeps biting us. You'd think by law of averages we'd have hit on some of these guys by now.
    On the OL, he keeps swinging for the fences and missing.

    Oddly, he seems to be the opposite on our homegrown talent. John Brown and Golden were both oft-injured while here but also showed quite a bit when healthy. To see both of those guys walk while we bring in the limping dead is frustrating.
     
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    Go ahead and name the injury free lineman who were available that would have been an upgrade for us
     
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    It's been said a number of times, but it's incredibly rare that teams let uninjured, good players go.

    Jawuan James sucked for years and had one decent season. Do you want to play $13 million for that?
     
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    Unfortunately the best guys available at a reasonable price are always injury-prone. Of course you can go all-in on Mosley and Trent Brown, who have been dependable in their careers. But you have to overpay big-time to have a chance at those guys. And who guarantees that they stay healthy, since both are around 30 years already.

    You can sign players who are well below average but dependable in FA. Or you can sign above average players who have some sort of medical red flags. If it works out, you look like genius. If not, the cost isn't killing your roster long-term like it would if Mosley or Trent Brown flame out.
     
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    Kevin White vs Golden Tate. End of argument. Plenty of healthy players to sign. Kim likes to try to steal players coming off of injury. Blue-light specials are lit because no one else wants the product.
     
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    My point basically is that pro football is a brutal sport and few players are injury free. I've been a fantasy football player for over 20 years and I'm always on the waiver wire to get a replacement for one of my QBs, RBs or WRs that are injured. It's just the nature of the game.
     
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    Previous injuries are cooked into their price tag. Another reason to build through the draft instead of FA. Younger and cheaper. But it's really all about luck with most of these injuries. Depth is so key, especially in the trenches and at RB.
     
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    I don`t think SK has overpaid for any of his FA signings this offseason.Sure some have some risk but overall he has been pretty smart about not overpaying for anyone.With 10 draft picks left there is potential for youngblood in several spots.
     
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    Tate got more money than I would be willing to spend. Good chance he declines very soon.
     
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    This take is extraordinarily bad. Yes, injuries happen in the NFL, but certain positions and injuries tend to be chronic and debilitating: soft tissue injuries for wideouts tend to recur, back injuries for offensive linemen tend to be crippling.

    If a guy is injured a few years running, and doesn't find his way back from the injury or finds a way to play through it, you can't depend on that player in the future.
     
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    If ARZ addresses the OL early in anticipation of guys like Humphries, Pugh & Gilbert missing time then fine but that $9.5M they are paying Humphries could be put to better use if they could get a LT early in the draft who would be cheaper and possibly healthier alternative. If ARZ can find a way to get either Dillard or Taylor then the LT spot could be solved long term.
     
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    this draft does not have an LT better than Hump, thats the problem. The kid is a decent player when healthy. but we may get a later round guy who can develop into a solid LT....they may still be counting on cunningham for that as well.
     
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    gilbert was hurt last year, missed time the previous season for steroids suspension. could have used a better example
     

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