Justice Kennedy, U.S. Supreme Court's pivotal vote, to retire

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  1. Dback Jon

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    Her last votes are hard to swallow.
     
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    I know, but she’s going to be the nominee and we need to help her as much as we can, IMO.
     
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    Fewer babies killed!! The dark days are upon us!! Oh NO.
     
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    Brett Kavanaugh is the name to remember.
     
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    Sounds like you're on board with many of the Democratic Socialist Party position on welfare and guaranteed jobs for all. Cool! ;)
     
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    A 12 week old fetus is not a baby. But I'm glad you can celebrate future control over women being told what to do with their bodies, gay rights stripped away, continued gerrymandering... all great things to look forward to the future as the "beacon on a pile of ****".
     
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    There were a number of factors involving HRC's defeat, and people who sat it out due to some sort of purity test would have made the difference. Jon is correct. There is no escape clause for those who didn't go HRC. I would just hope that there is a lesson to be learned here, even if it might be too late.
     
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    Hey Jon, I don't appreciate being told "SCREW YOU", "SCREW YOU TO HELL". Not cool, seems like you realize that you lost the argument on the merits--see previous threads during the election--- and still are upset about your candidates' failures and corruption. That is the only explanation I can find since my idealistic vote here in Oregon did not affect the outcome, HRC still won Oregon handily.

    Personal attacks are not only the lowest form of argument, as I tell my kids from time to time, they are also very Trumpian. Trademark of Donald J. Trump. Your rhetoric has put you right in there with him.

    Also, quite uncool that this personal attack is being tolerated here at ASFN. I thought this was a better forum than that.

    Have yourself a wonderful day Jon. If you need someone to **** on, please find someone else. Myself and my family are trying to come out out of the worst 3 weeks of my life and really don't need this.
     
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    Future LVG has returned from 2019 with artwork from the Supreme Court's hearing in Trump v. Electoral Board:

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    The way you can tell it's not a baby is because the Trump admin can't put it in a cage yet.
     
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    The terms embryo and fetus both refer to the developing baby inside the mother's womb (uterus). ... An embryo is termed a fetus beginning in the 11th week of pregnancy, which is the 9th week of development after fertilization of the egg. A zygote is a single-celled organism resulting from a fertilized egg.Jul 31, 2017
    Embryo vs. Fetus: The First 27 Weeks of Pregnancy - MedicineNet
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    I am not one who pushes for anti-abortion laws... However, does it really matter at what point you or I believe a fetus is a baby?
     
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    No, it only matters when you force somebody to act on your [not meaning you 82] opinion
     
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    No, you did not personally affect the outcome, but the philosophy you bought into certainly did. Fortunately you are off the hook on a technicality since you don't live in a swing state. :)
     
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    Just perusing the net, someone asked the question why Kennedy couldn't wait until after the election or the beginning of the year to have retired.

    The short answer is: it would have thrown the Court's docket into chaos. I think Kennedy can't hold on for another year, but doesn't want to leave the court short changed either.

    Remember that the Court term runs from October until June (technically, until September, but the Justices try to have everything wrapped up by the end of June so they can go on summer recess). Practically, its September. Which is why Kennedy is ducking out July 31.

    Remember when Scalia died mid term (February 2018)? You saw the court suddenly decline to hear cases and a fair amount of 4-4 ties started coming out.

    The general rule for appellate courts is that a justice has to be present from oral arguments through the opinion's publication in order to participate. If they come on after oral arguments, they're not automatically prohibited from participating, but it is discouraged (it's just a tradition). And if they leave the bench before the opinion is published, their name can't be on it because they are no longer a serving Justice.
     
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