Jordan Schultz Article re: Bidwill/Keim/Kliff

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Just a bunch of cowards.

Didn’t they do the same thing, going radio silence after that abomination of a playoff game? No end of season presser for coach or GM?
dont be too hard on Keim, he might start drinking again
 

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Keim operated best when he was tweaking the roster that Graves built and letting BA fill the leadership role. It's been a slow walking death ever since. There are glimpses of competence, like the first half of last season, but ultimately the fundamental flaws in the construction of the team sink the season early. He just isn't a guy who is capable of building a complete roster.

Luckily, all of this will be moot when Trey McBride turns into the next Austin Hooper. Then we will dominate no matter what.
 

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But remember guys - we'd be the 3rd best team in the NFC if Kyler played better. All is well except for that one thing!
Deliberately obtuse. Kyler has sucked balls and there's no two ways about it. Keim has sucked balls, as has Kliffy. All of those things can be and are true.
 

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Deliberately obtuse. Kyler has sucked balls and there's no two ways about it. Keim has sucked balls, as has Kliffy. All of those things can be and are true.
I don’t think BritCard recognizes this if anything.
 

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But remember guys - we'd be the 3rd best team in the NFC if Kyler played better. All is well except for that one thing!

As if what Keim does has an effect on games.

Is it Keim's fault Kyler missed multiple wide open receivers or was way off target in the Rams or Seahawks games?

Kyler directly effects the outcome of games. Only once has he done that positively vs the Raiders.

He's done it negatively enough times to rob us of 3 more wins.
 

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As if what Keim does has an effect on games.

Is it Keim's fault Kyler missed multiple wide open receivers or was way off target in the Rams or Seahawks games?

Kyler directly effects the outcome of games. Only once has he done that positively vs the Raiders.

He's done it negatively enough times to rob us of 3 more wins.
As Keim constructs the roster, he has direct impact on games.

If Kyler played better, we'd have more wins. How many is debatable. If Kyler played better, we still wouldn't be a good team. Keim built a bad roster and Kliff is still our coach.
 

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@MaoTosiFanClub is either SChultz or the source. lol

Link: https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2...weeks-will-answer-a-lot-of-coaching-questions

Cardinals blurb.

Kliff Kingsbury, Cardinals​

The Cardinals' disappointing season isn't on Kingsbury. I'm honestly not sure who'd succeed in his position given the slew of issues inside that building.

Let's start at the top with owner Michael Bidwill and general manager Steve Keim. The complete absence of accountability - especially from Keim - is appalling. His lack of professionalism permeates the entire franchise.

"Keim's a fan. He's been able to keep that job because of his relationship with Bidwill, but he's not a football savant or football mind. He's not a leader," a long-time personnel staffer told me.

Kingsbury reports to Keim, who gave quarterback Kyler Murray a $240-million contract extension in July. Murray is enormously talented, but there are clearly growing pains that he - like many young quarterbacks - must overcome. Kingsbury is a good offensive mind stuck in a no-win situation for an owner and GM who haven't a clue how to properly run a professional organization.

This is nonsense. "A good offensive mind"? Tell me you don't watch the playcalling during games without telling me you don't watch the playcalling during games.

100% Shotgun formation
Zero run game
90% screen passes to the sideline three years behind the LOS
Atrocious clock management
Incapable of in game adjustments
Deer in headlights look by 4 minutes into the game

"Revolutionary"

Did Kliff pay this guy to write this crap?
 

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As Keim constructs the roster, he has direct impact on games.

If Kyler played better, we'd have more wins. How many is debatable. If Kyler played better, we still wouldn't be a good team. Keim built a bad roster and Kliff is still our coach.

Kyler playing well and developing has an EXTREMELY HIGH nexus to our "Quarterback Whisperer" coach.

We get bowl out by ****** rosters all the time.
 

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As Keim constructs the roster, he has direct impact on games
If Kyler played better, we'd have more wins. How many is debatable. If Kyler played better, we still wouldn't be a good team. Keim built a bad roster and Kliff is still our coach.
The following GM decisions matter and have an effect on QB and entire offensive success:

1. Going into the season with arguably the worst RB room in the NFL

2. Going into the season with two starting OL who didn’t want to play and contemplated retirement (after spending draft capital on one of them)

3. Reliance on WR’s such as AJ Green, Andre Baciella, Andy Isabella, and oft-injured Rondale Moore (the latter two were acquired via valuable Round 2 draft picks)

4. Spending again more valuable draft capital on a luxury 2nd round TE who from all appearances likely doesn’t belong in the NFL.

Fact that anyone can say that Keim doesn’t dictate what happens on the field is an absolute joke. I won’t even get into Keim’s decisions on coaches and on the defensive and special teams sides of the ball.
 

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Kyler playing well and developing has an EXTREMELY HIGH nexus to our "Quarterback Whisperer" coach.

We get bowl out by ****** rosters all the time.
Nah. Kyler has to take responsibility for not developing. He's still full of his old bad habits that are on him to fix. Kliffy isn't doing him any favors, and is part of the problem, but we can't put the bulk of the burden on Kliffy for Kyler's play, because that would alleviate Kyler of responsibility. And Kyler has been a dumpster fire this season.
 

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Nah. Kyler has to take responsibility for not developing. He's still full of his old bad habits that are on him to fix. Kliffy isn't doing him any favors, and is part of the problem, but we can't put the bulk of the burden on Kliffy for Kyler's play, because that would alleviate Kyler of responsibility. And Kyler has been a dumpster fire this season.

That's fair. Kyler has no guidance because he has a flop of a coach AND Kyler does not seek growth and development in his own.
 

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As if what Keim does has an effect on games.

Is it Keim's fault Kyler missed multiple wide open receivers or was way off target in the Rams or Seahawks games?

Kyler directly effects the outcome of games. Only once has he done that positively vs the Raiders.

He's done it negatively enough times to rob us of 3 more wins.
So you’re saying that the team fielded has zero affect on the outcome of the game? Man that’s one of the worst statements I’ve ever seen on this Cardinals board.
 

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As Keim constructs the roster, he has direct impact on games.

If Kyler played better, we'd have more wins. How many is debatable. If Kyler played better, we still wouldn't be a good team. Keim built a bad roster and Kliff is still our coach.
If Kim had signed a competent kicker to replace Prater, we would’ve won at least two more games. In both those games, Kyler put us into the position to win.
 

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The following GM decisions matter and have an effect on QB and entire offensive success:

1. Going into the season with arguably the worst RB room in the NFL

2. Going into the season with two starting OL who didn’t want to play and contemplated retirement (after spending draft capital on one of them)

3. Reliance on WR’s such as AJ Green, Andre Baciella, Andy Isabella, and oft-injured Rondale Moore (the latter two were acquired via valuable Round 2 draft picks)

4. Spending again more valuable draft capital on a luxury 2nd round TE who from all appearances likely doesn’t belong in the NFL.

Fact that anyone can say that Keim doesn’t dictate what happens on the field is an absolute joke. I won’t even get into Keim’s decisions on coaches and on the defensive and special teams sides of the ball.
Mcbride's blocking alone says he belongs in the NFL. Drafted too high? Maybe...Needs to get better and more consistent at catching? Definitely...But his blocking is very, very good already.
 

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If Kim had signed a competent kicker to replace Prater, we would’ve won at least two more games. In both those games, Kyler put us into the position to win.
You mean the one where he slid in-bounds short of the yard to gain mark, forcing a spiked ball, forcing a fourth-down field goal? Yeah, he did a bang-up job in that one. Shot us in the foot, just like Kliffy, playing for a tie with a chump kicker.

But, yes, a better kicker would've gotten the job done there. That falls on Keim. That's why all 3 of them are major problems.
 

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You mean the one where he slid in-bounds short of the yard to gain mark, forcing a spiked ball, forcing a fourth-down field goal? Yeah, he did a bang-up job in that one. Shot us in the foot, just like Kliffy, playing for a tie with a chump kicker.

But, yes, a better kicker would've gotten the job done there. That falls on Keim. That's why all 3 of them are major problems.
That is a fair critique of Kyler (and Kliff) but an NFL kicker should be able to make that kick
 

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