It's a KK problem....Not a KM problem.

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  1. SoCal Cardfan

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    When your offense sucks this bad...Your defense is on the field WAY too much.

    Not saying the defense isn't a large part of the problem, but the offense hasn't helped them out much.
     
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    Kliff said that he was going to mesh his offense with NFL plays to create an NFL playbook. So far it doesn't look like he's been doing that enough and is trying to play his version of the college system Air Raid. He needs to start adapting if he wants to win in this league. Needs more tight end play and power running game. Lincoln Riley knew how to make the most of Kyler's talent with a strong running game. Kliff is putting too much on Kyler.

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    I like Kliff and DO believe he'll be a success.

    However..

    Pat Mahomes was seen as doing too much/not sticking to the pocket, trying to make hero plays, etc. for a losing Tech team. People were actually surprised Mahomes went as high as he did (viewed as a late 1st rounder)

    Now look at him..

    If what Kliff didnt win games with Mahomes...then yea it might be time to switch things up. At least until maybe we get the players needed for the system.
     
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    Offense looks fine even with limited WR, RB, TE threats..

    The defense does not get any stops that is the problem.
     
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    Not worried about KK and the offense around KM. We've shown some great flashes and had nice stretches early in the season with a rookie QB and a rookie HC installing a scheme that was brand new even to our veteran players. It naturally takes some time.

    What worries me is the defense, although it can easily be explained what's going on. Lack of talent in the front seven. Only Chandler Jones scares opponents. We get bullied upfront. Suspension/injury at CB. We have to give our bandaid CBs support, leaving the middle wide open to TEs. Once PP returns and Byron Murphy can cover the #2 instead of #1 WR, we will look much better. PP shadowing the #1 WR will result in less zone, more man and more aggressive blitzing. Will it fix the run defense? No. But it will make us much better against the pass. If by the time PP returns our offense has ironed out some wrinkles, we will get some nice wins down the stretch and KK will get another year to prove himself.

    We shouldn't make judgement after 3 games. These 3 games have already had much more bright moments than the whole 2018 season under Wilks.
     
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    Why wouldn’t we count QB runs when a good amount of them appeared to be designed? Yes we need to get the ball in the RBs hands more, but those numbers would likely look better if we didn’t fall well behind in the second half.
     
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    What games are you watching? I would agree with you for the first 3 quarters of the opener. D definitely kept us in that game. But after that, the D has been putrid. Especially in the Carolina game. K1 drives gave us 3 leads against Carolina & another brought us within a point. In every scenario, the D then gave up touchdowns on the ensuing drives. As a matter of fact, our D has given up points on EVERY opponent drive this season after we initially put points on the scoreboard. That's pretty scary. That stat has to go away or it'll be Groundhog Day the rest of the season.
     
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    We had more possession time in the last game.
     
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    Yep and every time we went down the field for a score Carolina responded with a score of their own.
     
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    They don’t care of they are ahead or not - but you can’t earn easier rpo or play action without establishing the run game. Like panthers did right off the bat - 2 mcaffey runs for a first down.
     
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    Baloney

    The offense was smooth af and constantly moving the ball, the defense was terrible no matter what.
     
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    These guys don't know ****. I watch the replays constantly along with other teams when I get home.

    Just watch it once and make up **** in their head embarrassing reading some of these posts.
     
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    You guys are right... Our offense with DJ averaging 12 carries a game, A QB with 4 TD's 3 ints Sacked 16!!! times with a whopping 51.1 QBR are totally pulling their weight...

    As you were.
     
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    Many of those sacks are him running O/B a yard or two behind the LOS. Why take the hit along the sideline??? Other than maybe 2 Rosen type sacks, he would scramble to almost the LOS. Bottom line, the 16 sacks are a very, very misleading stat.
     
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    Also, a QB that threw for over 300+ yards in his first 2 starts. In game 3, he ran the game plan (dink & dunk) to PERFECTION. Gave us 3 leads, which our D blew.
     
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