Is it time to blow up the team?

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Dragic does have quite a nice back to the basket game. Just watch the fourth quarter of game 3 vs the Spurs. The Dragon rules! Welcome to The Goran Dragic Show!

I kind of like the outlook of our team:

Lopez/Frye
Warrick/Clark/Lawal
Hill/Dudley
JRich/Barbosa
Nash/Dragic

Dragic, Lopez, Dudley, Clark and hopefully Lawal will continue to improve. Nash and Hill will lead them. JRich or Barbosa might be moved and we still have room for a real star either this year or next.

The offers for Amare have been too low and signing him for a long term max deal is too dangerous.

GO SUNS
 

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Dragic does have quite a nice back to the basket game. Just watch the fourth quarter of game 3 vs the Spurs. The Dragon rules! Welcome to The Goran Dragic Show!

I kind of like the outlook of our team:

Lopez/Frye
Warrick/Clark/Lawal
Hill/Dudley
JRich/Barbosa
Nash/Dragic

Dragic, Lopez, Dudley, Clark and hopefully Lawal will continue to improve. Nash and Hill will lead them. JRich or Barbosa might be moved and we still have room for a real star either this year or next.

The offers for Amare have been too low and signing him for a long term max deal is too dangerous.

GO SUNS

The one thing that really stands out, the Suns PFs (Warrick/Clark/Lawal) do not look like a physical bunch that can play against a strong PF.
 

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The one thing that really stands out, the Suns PFs (Warrick/Clark/Lawal) do not look like a physical bunch that can play against a strong PF.

As opposed to last year when we had a PF who looked 'physical' but wasn't - except that he could take a hit and still put up a good shot.

Actually, Lawal is said to be quite physical and the few clips I saw bore that out, at least when going for rebounds - naturally, there was nothing on YouTube showing him on defense. He is not quite as big as you'd like at PF - of course, if he were a full sized PF, we'd not have gotten him at #46.
 
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As opposed to last year when we had a PF who looked 'physical' but wasn't - except that he could take a hit and still put up a good shot.

Actually, Lawal is said to be quite physical and the few clips I saw bore that out, at least when going for rebounds - naturally, there was nothing on YouTube showing him on defense. He is not quite as big as you'd like at PF - of course, if he were a full sized PF, we'd not have gotten him at #46.

i agree.
he appears to have added a degree of discipline to the high energy play that makes him an extremely productive rebounder, even playing next to a jumping jack in Derrick Favors.



His 8.5 rpg last season was considered especitally impressive when one consideres he played tieh an elite lottery pick.
While Lawal’s minutes and touches have decreased marginally next to the lottery-bound Favors, he’s shown development in some areas and will still have an opportunity to hear his name called in the first round this summer.



Scores a lot of baskets on put backs... He has a strong frame and an NBA body, and plays physical on both sides of the ball ... Does a good job at drawing contact and getting to the line, and he runs the floor well for his size, making it a habit of beating his man down the floor ... Defensively his physical play and long wingspan help him contest shots, contributing to his effectiveness defending the post ...

Strengths: Lawal is a relentless player in the post with great potential ... He is a big time athlete with combination of a great body, huge wingspan (7’0’’) and excellent motor ... Has great footwork for a big man and runs the floor extremely hard ... Offensively, his game is based on his strength under the basket with putbacks, rebounds and hook shoots (shows solid touch with his right hand) and he does a great job at holding down his position ... Good finisher around the rim. If he catches the ball in the post and decides to turn around for a jump-shot, he will most likely try to shoot it off the glass ... Likes to play a physical game and is very hard to stop if he caches the ball on the low-post ... Has ability to get his defenders in the air and draw fouls ... Lawal possesses soft hands and he is very explosive player off the ground when he catches the ball in the paint or going for a rebound ... Solid passer inside the post with good vision ... Defensively, Lawal does excellent job at holding down his position on the post and using his body ... He has great timing for blocking shoots and rebounding the ball (his long arms make him a good rebounder as well) ... It’s very difficult to shoot over Lawal due to his long arms, and if he doesn’t block shots he can alter them ... Hard working kid with great attitude and effort on the court ... Has the type of frame and body that should allow for significantly more weight ...

Everyone reports he is very raw offensively, but some also point out that Georgia Tech had awful guards and that he was playing along with Favors.

For people looking for an immediate impact player, I'd guess they will be disappointed. But he could be more than a routine player in a few years.
 
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i think we should give it one year with Nash and the new pieces, if we are out in first round or miss the playoffs, its definitely time to shed the old players and rebuild.
 

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If Lawal can defend in the NBA the way George's last quote described, he will probably get a fair amount of floor time this year. Wouldn't it be sweet to have someone like that next to a healthy Lopez. Duncan and Gasol are probably just too big for him to handle but there aren't that many PFs with that size advantage. Dallas, no; Houston, no; Portland, no; Denver, no; Okla, not that I can think of; NO, no; Utah, no. I'm not so familiar with the EC.

Get him working on his pick and roll!
 

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Gonna be interesting to see the different lineups this year. Dragic, Duds, Clark, Lawal and Frye for example.
 

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As opposed to last year when we had a PF who looked 'physical' but wasn't - except that he could take a hit and still put up a good shot.

Actually, Lawal is said to be quite physical and the few clips I saw bore that out, at least when going for rebounds - naturally, there was nothing on YouTube showing him on defense. He is not quite as big as you'd like at PF - of course, if he were a full sized PF, we'd not have gotten him at #46.

I understand your hopes for Lawal. I have those too. However, he was only a second round draft pick and no one knows if he can even develop into a NBA player. The Suns are desperate if they are placing their hopes on a second round draft pick at PF. I even have hopes for Dwayne Collins who has a better build for a PF but that is not saying much.
 

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Nash/Hill/Childress to NYK for Felton/Curry

We get a decent starting PG (second tier) and Curry's deal expires at the end of the season. Add in the end of the year buyout of VC's contract and we'd have like $30 million in cap space, or something like that, because we would get rid of Childress's TERRIBLE contract and Pietrus expires as well.

NYK improves at PG and gets DEEP in both the backcourt and on the wing. We buy a MAJOR opportunity for Nash and Hill to get a ring (and Stoudemire as well).

We're left with about $22 million in contracts next year with a starting PG (Felton), a starting SF (Dudley), and a starting C (Gortat) in place along with a bench of Dragic, Frye, Warrick and Lopez. All that cap space allows us to sign two major starters and another bench producer along with having a high draft pick. But, the problem is that I don't know what the FA market has on hand this year....
 

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All that needs to happen for Nash and Hill to be traded is for them to verbalize their desire to do so. This would knock Sarver out of his fantasy world and he would have to oblige coming from two of the most respected players in the NBA.
 
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