Is Anything Real? If so, how do we know?

SissyBoyFloyd

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We have memories of what we assume are real. And we have thoughts that we call imagination, illusions of grandeur, or simply daydreaming. They both seem to appear or happen in the brain or our heads in the same way. So how are we to distinguish one being more real than another? They both are real in the sense of them being real thoughts. But who is to say that one actually happened in the past and one didn't? Is one more real or valid than another? Can one even be more important than another since they seem like just thoughts of something not of the present? Can we dream or imagine something that we haven't actually experienced in some way? If so, how did that imprint ever get in our minds? Could all our thoughts and dreams be of forgotten realities we once experienced? Actually, isn't who we think we are simply based on those same thoughts/memories? How can we be sure which are 'real'? Can't we simply be whoever we want to 'think or imagine' we are?
 

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Your post made me think of this:

"Once, Zhuang Zhou dreamed he was a butterfly, a butterfly flitting and fluttering about, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know that he was Zhuang Zhou.

Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakable Zhuang Zhou. But he didn't know if he was Zhuang Zhou who had dreamt he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming that he was Zhuang Zhou."

 

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We have memories of what we assume are real. And we have thoughts that we call imagination, illusions of grandeur, or simply daydreaming. They both seem to appear or happen in the brain or our heads in the same way. So how are we to distinguish one being more real than another? They both are real in the sense of them being real thoughts. But who is to say that one actually happened in the past and one didn't? Is one more real or valid than another? Can one even be more important than another since they seem like just thoughts of something not of the present? Can we dream or imagine something that we haven't actually experienced in some way? If so, how did that imprint ever get in our minds? Could all our thoughts and dreams be of forgotten realities we once experienced? Actually, isn't who we think we are simply based on those same thoughts/memories? How can we be sure which are 'real'? Can't we simply be whoever we want to 'think or imagine' we are?
To all this.....sure! Real...not real...does it matter at the end of the day? Not really if the ego is understood as the illusion it serves imo. The physical representation of the spiritual endless multiverse, universe... what have you. Some say seeing is believing. I say what we believe, is what we see. This can also get into the illusion of choice. Do we have actual choice in what happens to us or what we do?...or is it predetermined? Either one....does it matter? If one can let go of the egoic self, I'd say no.

My little side rant here... :)
 
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