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Kel Varnsen · Sep 16, 2019 at 10:08 AM

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His withdrawal from the nuclear treaty is a microcosm of how Trump conducts politics, and illustrates how dangerous his foreign policies truly are.

First, he declares a stated policy as "bad." He gives few reasons why he thinks the policy is bad, instead preferring general political attacks against said policy.

Second, he changes the policy, or in this case, stops complying with the treaty over the objection of every other ally. Trump has no plan B (or plan A for that matter); he simply dislikes the policy for whatever reason and trashes it.

Third, Trump attempts to negotiate a new policy. If he requires the assent of others (the Norks, Iran, NATO, China, etc.), he is rebuffed and cannot get a new policy in place. If he has the authority to issue a new policy (i.e. by executive order or by regulation authority), then he puts in a half-baked idea usually drafted by those who really don't know how the process works.

During this entire time, Trump ignores experts who have built up decades of experience in these matters.

At the end of the day, we are left with either poor policies or no policies (or treaties) whatsoever. Our relationships with our allies are damaged, and our relationships with neutral and hostile governments are damaged as well. Meanwhile, Trump whistles past the graveyard while boldly proclaiming that said bad policy is now "fixed." But to anyone who actually spends more than two iotas of effort to understand what's going on, it's apparent that it's just another lie at worst, or pure intentional ignorance at best.

It will take decades to determine the true impact of Trump's policies. I suspect history will not be kind to him.
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All because the last guy was black.

LVG · Sep 16, 2019 at 10:14 AM

Kel Varnsen said: ↑

All because the last guy was black.
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I think it's partly that. I think it's also because Trump has this irrational desire to be at the center of everything just to put his name on it.

If they repealed Obamacare tomorrow and passed the exact same legislation with Trump's name on it, Trump would be out there proclaiming that it is the "best healthcare plan ever." Substance doesn't matter with Trump; it's all about appearance. And given the large swaths of American public that cannot critically think for themselves, those swaths gobble it up without ever thinking for themselves.

UncleChris · Sep 16, 2019 at 11:09 AM

LVG said: ↑

His withdrawal from the nuclear treaty is a microcosm of how Trump conducts politics, and illustrates how dangerous his foreign policies truly are.

First, he declares a stated policy as "bad." He gives few reasons why he thinks the policy is bad, instead preferring general political attacks against said policy.

Second, he changes the policy, or in this case, stops complying with the treaty over the objection of every other ally. Trump has no plan B (or plan A for that matter); he simply dislikes the policy for whatever reason and trashes it.

Third, Trump attempts to negotiate a new policy. If he requires the assent of others (the Norks, Iran, NATO, China, etc.), he is rebuffed and cannot get a new policy in place. If he has the authority to issue a new policy (i.e. by executive order or by regulation authority), then he puts in a half-baked idea usually drafted by those who really don't know how the process works.

During this entire time, Trump ignores experts who have built up decades of experience in these matters.

At the end of the day, we are left with either poor policies or no policies (or treaties) whatsoever. Our relationships with our allies are damaged, and our relationships with neutral and hostile governments are damaged as well. Meanwhile, Trump whistles past the graveyard while boldly proclaiming that said bad policy is now "fixed." But to anyone who actually spends more than two iotas of effort to understand what's going on, it's apparent that it's just another lie at worst, or pure intentional ignorance at best.

It will take decades to determine the true impact of Trump's policies. I suspect history will not be kind to him.
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UncleChris · Sep 16, 2019 at 11:12 AM

Kel Varnsen said: ↑

All because the last guy was black.
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I think it had a lot to do with the public roasting Obama gave him at the correspondent's dinner.

devilalum · Sep 16, 2019 at 11:27 AM

Trump is all ego. Tearing up a bad plan or a plan that has any short comings is a no lose endeavor. No matter what anybody says his rebuttal is always ”That was a bad plan.”

This is why he has not presented any plans of his own. If he does people will point out the shortcomings and he will look bad.

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Kel Varnsen · Sep 16, 2019 at 1:05 PM

Western Font · Sep 17, 2019 at 5:17 AM

Individual One claims to be the ultimate boss and deal-maker, but shows an awful lot of deference.

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