I don’t get the hate

Ouchie-Z-Clown

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Hmm. I always considered it one of the key positions. But it was the position I played so maybe I am biased.
Same in college before my body blew apart. So I’ve always had an affinity for the position. It’s one of the rare positions where if you’re really good you can blow up virtually all aspects of an offense. I think that’s why the special ones (singletary, Lewis, etc.) are considered soooo good. They seemed to be everywhere.
 

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Just to inject a point of sanity, so haters please stop reading. Last season we did NOT have an offseason, and that had a big impact on Simmons. Hopefully, we have one this year. Fingers crossed.

P.S. It would help if posters who hate the Collins pick, post the player you would have taken.
 

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Against people who will never sniff a NFL field.

Blowing up production against the Harvard of the south (Tulane) is pretty pointless. It's like crowing about the one guy who is set to play in the SEC by using his small school high school tape.

I guess Corey Littleton, Matt Milano and Darius Leonard are bums then?

They don't hand time with a sun dial. Maybe they shaved a fraction but he would still be faster than all these guys, with significantly more weight.
 

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ILB is one of the key piece
History told that
Urlacher, ray lewis, Patrick Willis, navorro bowman, Bobby Wagner, fred Warner, Dez white, lavonta David, there is a reason they have been or they are one of the reason their defense has been successful
Probably because they(their defenses) were rich in more valuable positions.
 

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Against people who will never sniff a NFL field.

Blowing up production against the Harvard of the south (Tulane) is pretty pointless. It's like crowing about the one guy who is set to play in the SEC by using his small school high school tape.


The Hall of Fame is replete with players who in College ran up stats against the "Little Sisters of the Poor".
 

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I think a lot of people wanted the Cardinals to draft a cornerback or a wide receiver so I can see why people are disappointed.

It also didn't help the Cardinals were trying to trade down from #16 and couldn't find a taker.

It takes away from the selection.

This is a 100 percent false narrative people that support the pick keep throwing out there. Keim himself stated they didn't try, that Collins was simply too good to pass off. And that's part of why I think the pick stinks. He's great at limiting his own options.
 

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This is a 100 percent false narrative people that support the pick keep throwing out there. Keim himself stated they didn't try, that Collins was simply too good to pass off. And that's part of why I think the pick stinks. He's great at limiting his own options.

If you try to trade down you get bent over.

If there is somebody out there that want's to trade up they will call you. If they don't, then there weren't any takers.
 

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This is a 100 percent false narrative people that support the pick keep throwing out there. Keim himself stated they didn't try, that Collins was simply too good to pass off. And that's part of why I think the pick stinks. He's great at limiting his own options.

I guess it depends on how much confidence one places in Gambo's tweets. Personally, I think the Cardinals were trying to trade down.

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