I don’t get the hate

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Okay if you believe we are playing 2 ILB all the time then either we are in dime so no Fotu or in 3/4 so no Murphy or Golden doesn't play despite being signed over Reddick.

Collins can't play without removing.an existing.starter.
Our defense was rather pathetic, so what’s the problem with removing an existing starter?
 

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This is a 100 percent false narrative people that support the pick keep throwing out there. Keim himself stated they didn't try, that Collins was simply too good to pass off. And that's part of why I think the pick stinks. He's great at limiting his own options.
I kinda shocked you believe this
 

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None at all. I am intrigued what Vance does to keep them both on the field for 3 downs.

my guess:

regular 3/4: 3DL: Watt, Phillips, Fotu (or Lawrence, etc)
4LBs: Golden, Simmons, Collins, Jones
4 DBs

passing/light: 2 DL: Watt, Zach Allen
4 LBs: Golden, Simmons, Collins, Jones
5 DBs

speed package: 1 DL: Watt
4 LBs
6 DBs
 

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Good job man. I played MLB (and some DE) in football and SG on the basketball team. Small high school. No college. Started both. Still love the sports but I would have never had a chance in college.
It was Div III. And even there I think my body proved that to be the case for me as well. I was shocked that the players were close to the same size, just not as talented. I was a small 5’11, 210lbs, but slow 4.90 40 ILB. Thankfully I was smart and could diagnose plays quickly. My position coach’s nickname for me was “Taz” because I was all over the years place on film but made tackles. I really loved tackling.
 

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I kinda shocked you believe this

I watched the video when Keim made the call
Keim was relieved about the patriots selecting Jones, then Bidwill said " good, so, u get your guy"
He wasn't interested in trading, he would have selected him also with the ten pick
 

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I watched the video when Keim made the call
Keim was relieved about the patriots selecting Jones, then Bidwill said " good, so, u get your guy"
He wasn't interested in trading, he would have selected him also with the ten pick
At that point they would’ve likely already known there weren’t any interested trade down partners. Not buying they didn’t explore trade down opportunities and found the cupboard barren.
 

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I watched the video when Keim made the call
Keim was relieved about the patriots selecting Jones, then Bidwill said " good, so, u get your guy"
He wasn't interested in trading, he would have selected him also with the ten pick

couple points:

1. the drafting team is usually on the clock for a few minutes prior to the actual pick being announced. we dont see those few minutes. this is important because--
2. Many trades are pre arranged broadly prior to the draft / prior to going on the clock and then if okay, get finalized when you are on the clock.

with only 10 minutes, its just not practical to wait until you are on the clock to try to negotiate and finalize trades
 

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Cards have a type. It's never a secret who Keim/Bidwill want. Collins will be solid, however.
 

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louky, please keep this info away from the haters. Could only confuse them.
I actually like the pick, some on this board found value at other positions of need & I totally get it. However, every position on the field has to be filled at some point, I love the idea of Collins & Simmons in our LB core, solid front 7 considering our DL. CB does scare me a bit but a solid pass rush will help the secondary.
 
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