I do not like how our OL is shaping up so far

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  1. Timm Rosenbach

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    You know you are in trouble when Mason Cole is the bright spot on the O-line. It’s a problem that can’t be fixed through free agency or this draft. We need a creative offense and have brought in the right coaching staff. Unfortunately, there is no Joe Thomas in this draft. Gotta go with the crew that Keim brung us
     
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    They're stuck with him for at least two years, and are paying him $21 million dollars in year two. That is at least two years of investment in the player. Who is again, being paid as the best at his position. Do you think he'll really be that good? Come on.
     
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    The guy just anchored the offensive line of the Super Bowl Champions so I’m cool being “stuck” with him. I’m aware that it’s Brady and Belichick but Trent Brown was a beast for them all year. So yes the thought of Brown who’s in his prime being coached by Kulger and protecting Josh Rosen is appealing. Marcus Gilbert is 31 and finshed his last 2 seasons on IR.
     
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  5. ajcardfan

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    Well, you are just setting yourself up for perpetual disappointment if you expect this franchise to ever "fix" the offensive line. We have stumbled into a couple of decent ones, but man, what an abysmal history. I don't take what the team does with the line very seriously. It is more like the annual question is, "Can the Arizona Cardinals improve other parts of the team to a degree where they compensate for what will be a below average offensive line?"

    I will say this is a crappy looking draft for olinemen. So, adding what we did in free agency is at least logical.
     
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    This line will always be problematic until we learn how to draft and develop O-linemen correctly. The line should at least be above average by now, considering all of the resources that have been dumped into it the last few years. Instead, people are lauding Mason Cole as a building block for the future, which kind of baffles me after watching him getting shoved off the ball all year.

    Sean Kulger is probably the biggest addition to the line we will make this season. If he is everything we hear he is and can actually start developing young guys into solid players, the free agent stopgaps will be of little importance. If he can't, we will continue to riddle through the JR Sweezeys of the league every offseason. Getting guys without extensive injury histories would also help.
     
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    Nah...he's so short he won't even have to duck...
     
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    That's the part that bothers me. Nobody stands out. You'd like to have at least one probowler on your OL. Of course those guys rarely come in FA, so you have to draft them. So yeah, you do just have to roll with what you have and throw bodies at it.
     
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    Fair enough..

    But what are the options at this point?

    O-Linemen are increasingly becoming a scarce resource in the league. Considering the amount of money being thrown at very average O-linemen in Free Agency, I think Keim is acting very smart. I will, however, point solely on him not prioritizing O-linemen in the first half draft.
     
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    The Patriots were able to figure it out a long time ago....

    The five most commonly used linemen this season for New England were left tackle Trent Brown, left guard Joe Thuney, center David Andrews, right guard Shaq Mason and right tackle Marcus Cannon. That quintet combined to start 75 of a possible 80 games along the offensive line. Here's how the Patriots acquired those players:
    Brown, a former seventh-round pick of the 49ers in 2015, was acquired last offseason as part of a pick swap. The Patriots sent the No. 95 overall pick in the 2018 draft to San Francisco in exchange for Brown and the No. 143 pick, which is essentially like giving up a mid-fourth round pick for a starting left tackle.
    Thuney was a third-round pick in 2016. He has started all 48 regular-season games for the Patriots since that point.
    Andrews was signed as an undrafted free agent out of Georgia in 2015. He made the team out of camp and started right away, and has started 57 of a possible 64 games since.
    Mason was selected with a 2015 fourth-round pick. He played as part of a rotation during the early part of his rookie season before sliding into the lineup for good, and has blossomed into one of the very best guards in the league.
    Cannon was a fifth-round pick in 2011 who started a grand total of 11 games in his first four years. He slid into the lineup for an injured starter in 2015 and never gave up the spot, and has started every game that he has been healthy over the past four seasons.
    That's a full offensive line built out of mid- and late-round picks. That's pretty ridiculous in and of itself. But that group was not sieve-like, which you would expect such a unit to be. Rather, it was arguably the single best line in the league this season, ranking third in Adjusted Line Yards, first in Adjusted Sack Rate and third in pressure rate. All for the ridiculously low cost of just $14,539,489 against the cap. By way of comparison, consider the Chargers, who took on a cap hit of $14,968,750 this year for just left tackle Russell Okung, who gave up more sacks during the Chargers' divisional round loss to the Patriots (one) than the Patriots have all postseason.
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    I hope to hell he doesn't do either of these things.
     
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    So many people on here are going to look like fools come the fall. We really need to put together an archive of all of the posts doubting Kyler to look back and laugh.
     

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