How the league has changed

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  1. JCSunsfan

    JCSunsfan Registered User

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    This past season and then the summer has brought cataclysmic changes to the league. It might be important to notice.

    1. It is no longer the Warriors' league. Even when Klay gets healthy the Warriors will contend but no longer be runaway favorites.

    2. It is no longer LeBron's league. While Klutch sports and LeBron still hold a lot of power, Kawhi scorning them indicates a shift.

    3. It is no longer "big threes". The league now is about dynamic duos. Kawhi and PG, LeBron and AD, Harden and Russ, Kyrie and KD. I suppose one of these teams might be able to add a third star, but it seems like it is going to be harder and harder to do.
     
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    it definitely feels a lot more like the league is set up in the 90's with dynamic duos... and right now, there doesn't seem to be an MJ there to deny every single one of them. If this was prime LeBron and Davis they'd probably win the lion's share of titles, but it's not.

    should make for a lot of great match-ups, especially in the West, but people shouldn't sleep on the East. Philly is going to be very good, Milwaukee still has the MVP and if he takes another step forward and develops his jumper they'll be even tougher, Boston has a team that Brad Stevens can finally coach again and I think the Pacers can be a super-sleeper and crank out 50 wins, making some great moves to bring in two more scorers with Brogdon and Warren, but Brogdon's D will help a lot also... plus they get back Oladipo.
     
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    Yep. Eastern duos. Embiid and Simmons, CP3 and Jimmy (if that happens). You do have a few teams with one star and a couple "almost-ers": Kemba/Tatum/Hayward, Freak/Bledsoe/Middleton.

    There are also up and coming duos. Zion and Jrue, Book and Ayton.
     
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    Cmon we all know 2 years from now its gonna be the Leque solo league.

    Just waiting for the hammer to fall.
     
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    Sure. That is the way to do it. Each team gets one max contract. Can't wait to see what the players union would do with that one.
     
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    Undoubtedly. As the max contracts get bigger, nobody can afford them... or at least, can afford the risk to their payroll structure. We are now in the era of the two-star teams because no one can afford three stars on super-max or max contracts. It's inevitable that will be whittled down to one with time.

    Which is probably good for parity, and really for the NBA overall. I think more fan bases are excited about next season than in a long time. Going into a season knowing only one or two teams have a chance to win (as we have had for the last decade or more) makes the entire sport a drag.
     
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    Booker is currently the Suns best player and he is still young but do you really believe will ever be in that elite top super star tier?
     
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    Chaplin Better off silent

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    Why not? This is a player that has improved every single year he's been in the league. If he ever gets his head on straight regarding defense, he will absolutely be in that superstar tier.

    And don't forget, this is the first year in his ENTIRE CAREER that he will have an elite playmaker next to him.
     
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    You are so correct here. It's actually crazy how good he is at 22. His rate of growth is phenomenal.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/player/advancedstats/_/id/3136193/devin-booker
     
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    Well, assuming good health, absolutely. So far though, as far as basketball is concerned, good health and Booker are strangers.
     
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    Sure. I cannot see why not. He is really close to that level right now. The real question is whether he can produce like that on a winning team.
     
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    I wonder what would happen if they kept the salary cap at the same percentage that it is now but dumped the max contract completely. The only way you could get two top ten players is if both took less than market value. In today's environment, they are both able to get max contracts.
     
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    That is an intriguing idea. The problem with having a max contract number is that everyone thinks they deserve it. If they did this, they would need a hard cap, or at least a harder cap than they have now.

    As it is, the supermax is something that teams seem to be trying to avoid. They need to dump that. If you don't offer it to your home grown star player, he feels slighted and you have to trade him--this basically happened with Cousins and Kemba. I do not think Booker will ever be deserving of a supermax, but we might have to make that decision at some point.

    Maybe a simple correction would be that Bird rights do not transfer with traded players. Bird rights only apply to the team that issued the initial contract.
     
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    The Sixers have a strange roster. Josh Richardson is going to be their only starter who isn't a big man. If Ben Simmons doesn't learn how to shoot, even at a below average level, they're going to have a rough time in close, late games. I'd also hate to be paying Tobias Harris 30+ million a year. Yikes.
     
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    If Bird rights didn't transfer it would be a mess. That would make it reeeally difficult for struggling teams to rebuild as the players they are trying to trade would be virtually worthless if they're on short term deals.

    I think they should eliminate sign and trades entirely.

    Don't mess with the cap, I think the soft cap is working alright. The luxury tax is absolutely brutal, as intended and a small market team like the Bucks was able to keep it's roster largely intact despite a boat load of free agents.

    This coming season should be really wild, there are a more potential contenders than we've seen in ages. 1994 was probably the last time that there has been so much hope around the league.
     

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