Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by NashDishesDimes, May 27, 2015.
I commented long before the draft that there were only 2 real pile movers in this draft: the top pick at RB and the kid from Texas that no one seem to have wanted. I would not be surprised at all to see that kid, that just didn't get a chance to show is stuff at Texas do to there inept offensive lines, turn out to be exactly what we needed.
I agree with you about our pick. We still need a backup to rest Ellington, so maybe he will fit the bill there at least. He does have some potential, so I don't consider him a wasted pick, just not the type player most of us would have wanted to compliment our existing RBs.
Hey, let's trade him for Peterson. What you say?
Ha i didnt compare him to AP from Production perspective. He is no where near that physically talented or produced at that level ever. Theres a ton of risk in a small school guy like that.
I just think his runnign style is dynamic. I could see the Beanie comparisons. All 3 run high and hard though I think AP and DJ to a lesser extent glide whereas Beanies was more of a tapper in the hole imo. But this guy is already 10x the receiver and one of Beanies biggest issues was injuries. He might have been what we all hoped if he and Kevin Kolb both hadn't graduated with honors from the Kevin Johnson school for grit.
I will come back and eat crow if he is not a productive member of the offense and playing a important role - especially down the stretch. I trust Kiem and Bruce too much to think they wont get something out of him.
You think he will be the least impactful rookie of all selections you said right? Ill take that bet.
I like Johnson, but I wouldnt try to compare anything he does to Ellington. I would say Johnson is pretty fast and elusive for a 224lb rb. But Ellington is is very explosive when healthy. I love that we have both options on this team.
I 100% said that, and yes, I will stick by my words, and eat proper crow need be.
BTW, Here is to hoping he does, in fact, become the next AP, regardless of how likely it is or the fact I now understand that is not what you meant, that would be AWESOME!!!
im not buying the "over 6 foot = doomed to failure" argument
Eddie George was 6-3
Arian Foster is 6-1
Steven Jackson is 6-2
thats just off the top of my head
Adrian Peterson is 6'1'' 217 lbs.
He is? I thought he was known for being a great pass catcher out of the back field as a former WR. This is honestly the first I've heard his stiff arm mentioned.
You were on the bandwagon for those 2 but not this guy? Maybe that's a good sign for his chances since those 2 sucked.
I don't agree with most of your points, but I wouldn't say I'm super optimistic on him either. I think he's here not for power but because he can do most of the things Ellington can do. This time last offseason the coaches were raving about Ellington and making it sound as though they intended to build the offense around him. He got worn down and our offense suffered because no one else could run the plays he could. Johnson solves that problem in theory. Now we can cut Ellington's time on the field in half without having to change our offense up. So I don't think he'll be a star but more of a role player who gets 10-15 touches a game between runs and passes at the most.
He might not be as fast as Ellington but he's still pretty fast. 4th fastest RB at the combine in the 40, 2nd in the cone drill. They might not be identical but you can call the same plays for them and get similar results IMO.
Those of you doubting my comparison of David Johnson to being a more durable version of Andre Ellington need to read the article by Big Red Rage entitled 'David Johnson Article' posted earlier on this board--------its down just a few threads from this one.
According to that article he is exactly what I said, and that is why Arians and Keim wanted him. He is a bigger version of Ellington with the same moves and quickness and burst. He has the size to take the pounding better than Ellington does. Most of all, he has hands better than Ellington does---which makes Arians believe he can get the ball to him in space more than they do Ellington. He is an accomplished blocker just as Ellington is, and because of that and his hands, is expected to be a three down back.
Read that article and watch the videos of him with the explanations given.
He'll be an excellent player who will be a more effective inside runner in the NFL than he was in college. We'll all know who's right in a few months.
If he plays like a healthy Beanie Wells then it will have been one helluva pick.
DJ seems to be the only draftee who has moved from field #2 to #1.
But the biggest reason why DJ will be a success, is that we're way over due. It's a long time since the days of OJ Anderson and Stump Mitchell. God owes us.
I all fairness, I saw in one of the articles, (or videos), on the official Cards site that the switch of Johnson to the #1 field was due to an injury. The injured player was not named nor was the type of injury.
Our RB issues have had a LOT more to do with bad online bad RBs.
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