Going out on a limb..... Stanton is the QB we have been looking for

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I love the positive vibes amongst a mostly negative board. I like Stanton too but I don't see him as much more than a bridge. I would love for him to be "the guy" but I think if he was going to be a solid QB in this league he would have been by now. I know he's had limited opportunity but backup QB's that bounce around rarely turn into something great.
However, I think he's the perfect type of player to get you to the next franchise QB. I'll believe it a little more if he can beat out Hoyer and the rookie in camp this year. We shall see!

Typically I would agree with this statement, but in his case he has been stuck behind Stafford and Luck his whole career. He did get some playing time in 2009 and seemed overwhelmed having thrown 6 interception with 0 TDs in 3 games. He did however get a chance to redeem himself by getting 4 starts in 2010 in which he played pretty solid (58%, 4TDs and 3 INTs).

Factor in that Arians said that he improved a lot last year while he was the Colts backup and it doesn't seem so crazy to think that he could be at least solid for the Cards. Not necessarily saying he will be QBOF good, but he could be good enough to maybe hold us over for a couple years if need be.
 

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Exactly. He hasn't played in two years. What tape could anyone watch that was relevant?

In addition he's gonna be 29 years old. So not a young QB who can be expected to learn and improve. It's like drafting Brandon Weedon. But he's Arians boy so hopefully he can do something to stem the tide of 5-11 seasons and horrendous offense.

Warner was 28 in his first season as a starter and only started due to injury. He was so bad in the mind of the NFL, we bagged groceries.
 

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Warner was 28 in his first season as a starter and only started due to injury. He was so bad in the mind of the NFL, we bagged groceries.

Comparing a 1 in a million success story to this is silly and it is facetious. An utter joke.

Warner was successful in every level he got his opportunity. Stanton has been mediocre or just plain awful with every opportunity he has had.

A spade is a spade. Stanton sucks and it was moronic to sign a marginal player to a 3 year deal.

We are going to suck next year. 4-12 suck with this joke playing QB.
 

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Could he surprise? Sure.

The odds of him becoming a better than average NFL starter is pretty low though.

I just hope that the offense is competent enough around him so that wheat he QB is found, its just a plug and play situation.
 

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Stanton Sucks!
 

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Comparing a 1 in a million success story to this is silly and it is facetious. An utter joke.

Warner was successful in every level he got his opportunity. Stanton has been mediocre or just plain awful with every opportunity he has had.

A spade is a spade. Stanton sucks and it was moronic to sign a marginal player to a 3 year deal.

We are going to suck next year. 4-12 suck with this joke playing QB.

Wager?

The games Stanton starts will result in at least .500 football. I am giving you much better numbers than you are predicting.

Winner get avatar choice form SB to draft.

This bet is only good with Sanders, so don't ask.

By the way, I was disputing the age argument. There are other players who have done it too, like Rich Gannon, so thanks for assuming otherwise.
 

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Stanton Sucks!

Yet you would be willing to spend a 7th overall pick on a QB who is just as talented in this draft.

SMH


Every QB in this draft is a second round talent. Just like Stanton. You can reach like a dummy and take one, or take one in the second who will be a clone of the guy you wanted in the first, and who will be about as average to sucky as the second rounder already on the roster.
 

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Not that it means anything but he's a great interview. Very intelligent, articulate and articulate. DA was a horrible interview and Matty just sounded like a college kid. Kolb always sounded hesitant for some reason.

Again it means nothing but if he fails it won't be his football IQ or work-ethic, it will be his talent-level (or lack thereof). He sounds the part though.
 

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Unfortunately, I can't join you on that limb. I still have too many splinters from the limb I went out on for Kolb.

My legitimate hopes for Stanton end at him becoming a serviceable backup. Anything better would be close to shocking. Scouting has become much more advanced since Kurt was bagging groceries. I doubt a quality starting QB could sit on a bench for seven years without anyone recognizing his talent.
 

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Warner was 28 in his first season as a starter and only started due to injury. He was so bad in the mind of the NFL, we bagged groceries.

Your last sentence is incorrect. Warner was told after his first TC that he had the skills to play in the NFL. The next TC he got hurt. Then he went on to a very successful Arena career. I can think of maybe 4 guys that didn't play much if at all in the NFL for several years after college. Trent Green, Warren Moon, Gannon, and Warner. But every one of those guys played at least one full season of some kind of football. Gannon was the starter in Minnesota at age 25. Green started an entire season in Washington. Moon of course played several years in the CFL.

But my original point was not that he won't be good because he's 28 soon to be 29 but that he is not a young QB as some posters are writing.
 
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A spade is a spade. Stanton sucks and it was moronic to sign a marginal player to a 3 year.

Why?

If it is because of his ability, then fair enough.

If it is because the contact then I don't know what you are complaining about. Stanton can be cut next year, no problem.
 

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Be careful out on that limb! I'm just now recovering from the Kolb fall. That being said, I hope the kid does OK. I also see him as a bridge, but nothing wrong with a little kool-aid in March. BA's strength is QB's, so I'll take my kool-aid with extra sugar!
 

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Be careful out on that limb! I'm just now recovering from the Kolb fall. That being said, I hope the kid does OK. I also see him as a bridge, but nothing wrong with a little kool-aid in March. BA's strength is QB's, so I'll take my kool-aid with extra sugar!

That's my view. He's a bridge who has a chance this season to become more. The Cardinals will draft a QB in round two or three for BA and Moore to develop, but right now it looks like Stanton and Hoyer will compete for the job with Lindley a candidate for #3 or possibly the practice squad.
 

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Shhhh...you might upset all the peeps here who think we've had the best FA signings so far & are headed for a 7-9 season. ;)

True...Kind a like the peeps who thought Kevin Kolb was the answer. ;)

I'll take the lets give the kid a chance and see what happens. If you trust our new HC then you have to kind the kid an opportunity and judge him by what happens on the field. He could be the next KW and he could be the next KK. Hope is all we have right now.
 

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Typically I would agree with this statement, but in his case he has been stuck behind Stafford and Luck his whole career. He did get some playing time in 2009 and seemed overwhelmed having thrown 6 interception with 0 TDs in 3 games. He did however get a chance to redeem himself by getting 4 starts in 2010 in which he played pretty solid (58%, 4TDs and 3 INTs).

Factor in that Arians said that he improved a lot last year while he was the Colts backup and it doesn't seem so crazy to think that he could be at least solid for the Cards. Not necessarily saying he will be QBOF good, but he could be good enough to maybe hold us over for a couple years if need be.

Wrong. In his rookie year (2008) he couldn't vault Dan Orlovsky, Daunte Culpepper, or Jon Kitna, despite being a very high second-rounc pick.

In 2009, he couldn't beat out Culpepper for the #2 job when Stafford went down with one of his many collarbone fractures.

In 2010, he couldn't get out from behind Shaun Hill for the #2 job behind Stafford, despite being a very high second round pick.

So we're kind of hoping that "the Answer" at QB is a guy who had to hold on to #3 jobs his entire career, until he went to the youngest and most shallow team in the NFL.
 

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Why?

If it is because of his ability, then fair enough.

If it is because the contact then I don't know what you are complaining about. Stanton can be cut next year, no problem.

LOL absolutely. No context to these conversations. Step away from the ledge Chris and don't view it through a vacum. Stanton may end up starting but its a low risk proposition and signed to back up money. Hes a stop gap.

And I think we will be better then 4-12. If not Arians isn't the coach I think he is.
 

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Comparing a 1 in a million success story to this is silly and it is facetious. An utter joke.

Warner was successful in every level he got his opportunity. Stanton has been mediocre or just plain awful with every opportunity he has had.

A spade is a spade. Stanton sucks and it was moronic to sign a marginal player to a 3 year deal.

We are going to suck next year. 4-12 suck with this joke playing QB.

I endorse this statement. Arians success last year was with a once very 20 years rookie QB and someone else's team. To think that he is the guru who can step into a bucket of crap and come up with diamonds is uber optimistic. Good luck to us.

Hopefully, Stanton is being brought in to run the system until Geno Smith is ready.
 

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After reviewing tape and highlights on him I believe that this is finally the guy to replace Warner long term. Great arm, mobile, looks off receivers, team responds to him, and by all reports works his ass off to improve.

BA raved about how much, and how quickly, Stanton improved in the short time that they have worked together.

Maybe I'm drinking the Kool aid but this might be the one

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He may be. I do not have any idea but sure hope he is the man as if he is not we are destined for last place in the Division and a high draft pick next year.
 

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Wager?

The games Stanton starts will result in at least .500 football. I am giving you much better numbers than you are predicting.

Winner get avatar choice form SB to draft.

This bet is only good with Sanders, so don't ask.

By the way, I was disputing the age argument. There are other players who have done it too, like Rich Gannon, so thanks for assuming otherwise.

I have never done a bet like this so sure! Of course I will hope you are correct as it means we will be 0.500 or better.
 

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