Game #49 Arizona Diamondbacks @ Los Angeles Angels. 09/15/20

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  1. thirty-two

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    Hey, a win!
     
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    Poor decision making by Torey but the MadBum signing is looking worse with every start
     
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    Indeed. Meanwhile, Hazen was also the one who traded for Andriese a couple of years ago. While not at the awful level of Dave Stewart, I am thinking more and more that Hazen really isn't a good GM after all...
     
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    Every post like this makes me know that you really don't understand baseball at all.
     
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    Do you think Jake Lamb should been have on the roster as long as he was? Or that Mathisen should be on the roster at all? Or that we didn't get fleeced in the Goldy trade? Or that the MadBum signing isn't proving to be Russ Ortiz level bad? Or that the Steven Souza trade wasn't a dud? Or that the trades for Andriese and Diekman weren't busts? Or that Rondon was a good signing? Or that the bullpen hasn't been a consistent disaster starting in 2018? Or that having a first round draft pick not sign was good? Or that he didn't buy high on Starling Marte and sell low on him after 35 games? Or that our MLB roster and farm system aren't both currently heading in the wrong direction?

    And that's not to mention the undeserved loyalty to a Manager who is clearly in way over his head...
     
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  6. Dback Jon

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    No GM is perfect, especially one that has to balance a low payroll.

    Teams like the Dodgers and Yankees make mistakes all the time, they can afford to cut ties.

    He has rebuilt the farm system. Made good signings/trades for the most part.

    When he took over, the farm system was in shambles, and near the bottom of the league. It is still rated towards the top, only a few spots lower but you think that is heading in the wrong direction.

    2020 moves I am not going to judge anyone on. It is such a weird season that moves that SHOULD have worked (Bumgartner, Marte, Rondon) that he got high marks for doing aren't working, but player performance is really beyond the GM"s control.

    Dbacks didn't give up much of anything for Andriese, probably got back a better prospect from the Angels than what they gave up to get him. All GM's do moves like this with relief pitchers. All GM's have misses with relief pitchers.

    Your histronics are laughable.
     
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    All good points, but don't waste your time @Dback Jon. Lovullo and Hazen could find a cure for cancer and some would say "Look at all the oncologists they put out of work"
     
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    Torey is 1 win away from win #280 as Diamondbacks manager in less than 4 full seasons.
     
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    Which is why he will not be fired this year.
     
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    And Bob Brenly won 303 games in roughly the same period of time. Should we have kept him as well?...
     
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    Jerry fired everyone before he was going to sell. I think it was clear Brenly didn’t want any part of rebuilding.
     
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    Brenly was part of why they had to rebuild. And no franchise has wanted to touch him ever since...
     
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    So we're going to have to suffer another season like this needlessly instead? How more players will Torey ruin in that time, and will those players include Varsho, Carroll, Robinson, Perdomo, Bukauskas and whatever other pitchers we have coming up?
     
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    You have not shown that TL has ruined any players.
     
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    Yes Brenly was the reason Williams, Bell, Finley, Grace and Counsell all aged out of the league.
     
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