Game 3 and the 53

Harry

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I’ll begin with a confession. I was so not excited about this game, I forgot it was on live. So here’s what I gathered watching my recording. I must admit the game was more interesting than I expected. Either Gannon really beat them up about their game two play or the Broncos have great depth compared to the Raiders. It’s probably a little of both.

Let’s start with the guys who didn’t help themselves, though some will still make the 53. Ossenfort has been excellent at building depth, especially for a first timer. Tune is a frustrating case. He’s clearly a great athlete with a big arm. Sadly I don’t believe he’s an NFL QB. It’s true the Oline was weak, but he just fails too often to execute. He had an open receiver for a TD and throws the ball at the receiver’s ankles. He held the ball too long and gets sacked. He’s tall, but gets multiple passes batted down. He still lacks poise. He can rollout smoothly, but too often fails to deliver when he sets up. Cut him!

Burke had a terrible game. His lack of running speed showed. More concerning was he’s supposed to be a zone expert. However, he was slow to cover receivers moving into his zone. He makes the 53, but maybe wouldn’t have if the Cards hadn’t lost 2 CBs.

Simon played better but that was a low bar. He was okay when the play was right in front of him, but otherwise failed to contribute. He likely makes the 53, but again the ILB position is thin.

Baccellia has played well the last 2 preseasons and even seen some real game action. He looked lost last night. Poor routes and poor awareness may mean he’s vulnerable to be cut even though that unit is not deep.

Pappoe still looks like he fails too often grasping where he’s supposed to be and what his role is. He’s not an asset. The unit is thin and theoretically he knows the defense, but I’d cut him.

The Cards have improved their ability to run screens, but not at this level of player. They exposed every screen too early; bad line play. I don’t understand why Demercado played so much. Are they thinking Knight is a better option? Seems remote, but the injury risk seems unjustified. Finally, the Cards still appear clueless on 2 minute drills.

There fortunately was a lot of good play. Starting with Burch. He’s got to start. He’s been the best pass rusher and solid at setting the edge against the rush.

Thomas woke up. It was against inferior competition, but he played like a man in danger of not making the 53. I think he forced his way on, but he will be closely watched. He’s vulnerable.

I’d marked Simi Fehoko to make the 53. He showed value as a receiver and on special teams. He’s an easy call.

Carter is a sad case. He should be on somebody’s 53, but the Cards have too much RB talent. He’s a lock for the PS unless someone grabs him.

One of the toughest calls is Crawford. I didn’t see him play, which says to me he’s in the 53. Does this put Blount in jeopardy? I think so even though Blount has been outstanding. If this happens it speaks volumes about the Cards’ depth.

Mustipher had another decent game. Injuries have likely put him amongst the 53. He may get bumped to the PS when team health improves and might get grabbed, but he’s likely in the 53 for the moment.

Weaver looked good again and also showed he can return punts. Will the Cards keep 6 WRs? I don’t know, but if they don’t they’ll lose one.

The temperature went up big time in the CB room. E Jones hadn’t shown much, but looked like the real deal in this game. Hall also played well and brings energy with him. Gannon spoke positively about Clark this week. He’s always been good in run support. He actually broke up a pass last night. Another Jones, Jaylon, also played well before a potential injury. I think you could get him to the PS. I think they lose at least one and maybe two of this group. It’s ironic considering the 2 injuries that they could lose guys to cuts. I’m keeping E Jones, Hall and Burke if the math works.

I watched the Oline carefully. I thought Curhan not only played well, but showed some on the field leadership in directing his neighboring guard. Despite overall weak depth, this may be a tough set of players to cut. Curhan needs to stay.

Flying under the radar, I thought Walker looked good at ILB. That’s in a game where others didn’t. The Cards will probably go with more developmental guys, but this guy came to play. On merit alone, I liked him better.

The fact that there was so much to write says a great deal about the improved quality of the team. A few key injuries could still derail this season, but with a little good fortune, this should be a fun season.
 

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Agree with a lot of this it’s fun to have solid options that’s a change from what we were used to.
 

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I expect Collins will start opposite Sweat because of his versatility and run stopping.

But also Burch has shown he's good vs the run and is more of a rushing threat. Would I be surprised if Burch is out snapping Collins by game 8? Not really.
You’re not surprised by anything except the next Rondale Moore injury.

Burch has shown against guys getting ready to apply for real estate licenses in a couple days. Let’s not lose our minds.
 

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Do you think there's any chance we keep 5 S? I can see us playing the third or fourth safety more in passing situations with how weak our ILBs are outside of Mack and Blount and Crawford are both strong ST guys. I'd also hate to give ourselves less options for replacing Jalen next year by cutting a decent, cheap safety who is on the bubble.
 

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Mustipher did not play the second half. Is this an indication that he may very well make the 53?
 
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You’re not surprised by anything except the next Rondale Moore injury.

Burch has shown against guys getting ready to apply for real estate licenses in a couple days. Let’s not lose our minds.
Eh...Burch saw time against KC early and did pretty well for a rookie
 

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Call whoever you want as the starters. The front seven are going to be rotated in and out like a turnstile.
Think Eagles. That’s exactly what they do. That’s what Monti and Gannon are trying to build.
Only like three or four edge players and maybe IDL actually played on that team bro. I did a snap count breakdown on it not long ago.
 

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Browning and Collins are fringe NFL starters. And what if Ojulari can't come back?
What if?

I’m open to the idea that Burch might be better than all of them, but that’s not a fact made manifest because he had a handful of good plays against guys who are spending 2 hours a day updating their LinkedIn profile.
 

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What if?

I’m open to the idea that Burch might be better than all of them, but that’s not a fact made manifest because he had a handful of good plays against guys who are spending 2 hours a day updating their LinkedIn profile.
Regardless of whether he starts or not, he looks like a solid player & a good draft pick by MO at the moment. I'm looking forward to seeing him play. Game 1 can't get here fast enough for me.
 

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I don't think the initial 53 will look like the final 53. I think the team have some players with trade value that will make the initial 53 if they can't move them before the deadline so me might see something weird in the initial 53 like only 3 safeties, 4 wide receivers or 3 linebackers until they can work something out, because those weaker back ends like Weaver, Pappoe and Blount are unlikely to be claimed.
 
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Collins is not a true sack threat. Browning gets pressures but not sacks. He also doesn’t set the edge as well as Burch. Burch is not yet as strong against the run as Collins, but he’s not that far behind. I think it’s unlikely they start Burch except here and there on passing downs. For my money he’s easily the best all around talent. The more he plays, the faster he gets even better. He’s an impact player;the other two aren’t. He’s not bumping Sweat, but until Collins or Browning makes game changing plays, I’m playing Burch on obvious passing downs.
 

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Collins is not a true sack threat. Browning gets pressures but not sacks. He also doesn’t set the edge as well as Burch. Burch is not yet as strong against the run as Collins, but he’s not that far behind. I think it’s unlikely they start Burch except here and there on passing downs. For my money he’s easily the best all around talent. The more he plays, the faster he gets even better. He’s an impact player;the other two aren’t. He’s not bumping Sweat, but until Collins or Browning makes game changing plays, I’m playing Burch on obvious passing downs.
The higher ceiling is definitely there. Do not agree with his readiness to push for a starting role.

Collin’s is a very good OLB in all other aspects than pass rush. I doubt Burch can push him this season. What I do expect after seeing Burch is a player, who I expected to have perhaps 10-15% snaps increasing that number significantly. I think he’ll have a permanent role in certain packages and be a bigger part of the rotation
 

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Collins is not a true sack threat. Browning gets pressures but not sacks. He also doesn’t set the edge as well as Burch. Burch is not yet as strong against the run as Collins, but he’s not that far behind. I think it’s unlikely they start Burch except here and there on passing downs. For my money he’s easily the best all around talent. The more he plays, the faster he gets even better. He’s an impact player;the other two aren’t. He’s not bumping Sweat, but until Collins or Browning makes game changing plays, I’m playing Burch on obvious passing downs.
I think Burch will get opportunities and what he does with them will determine his role throughout the year.
 
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