Game #147-Arizona Diamondbacks (75-71) @ NY Mets (75-70). 09/12/19

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    First pitch is set for 10:10 a.m. Arizona time.
     
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    Down 7-0 in the 5th, D-Backs going for the big four-game swept!
     
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    This team has fell apart! Either way, it was fun watching them go for it but knew that they could come crashing down, and they have!
     
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    Three more Mets HR in the 5th, now 10-0, Mets.
     
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    Welp. This was fun while it lasted. They need to beat up on these next few teams and hope these other teams ahead start to lose
     
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    Not a good way to climb out of the depths...hoping every team ahead of loses. They had their chance and have played like crap
     
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    They are what they are - basically a .500 team.
     
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    'Just got home and I see the results are no better than yesterday.

    The way the D-backs were winning for awhile to break the .500 trend
    was not by the same margin that they are losing now.

    I posted recently that I liked that Torey moved his catcher up in the
    batting order and put a singles hitter behind him instead of the pitcher.

    It lasted for one game, then was abandoned. And now back again.
    The result? Avila is 2-for-2 today, not hitting in front of the pitcher.

    If you try it and it works, why abandon it? Not that it could overcome
    the pitching performances of the past two games.

    With the terrible inconsistency of the D-backs all season long, we need
    a complete manager. One with vision who can see beyond the end of
    his nose.
     
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    Walker and Dyson have provided nothing for this team in September . We were absolutely drubbed by the Mets.
     
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    Dyson started the season as our designated pinch-runner and perhaps defensive replacement.

    Despite his .236 batting average, he has proven to be a spark plug who makes things happen.

    Which is why he has split the CF position with Marte. But CF is not a corner power position.

    Regarding Walker, he looks so small standing next to base runners at 1B. it is difficult to
    believe that the stats list him at an impressive 6'0" - 220.

    Especially when you compare it to Jake Lamb's 6'3" - 215, whom I do not prefer either.

    Or when you compare either to Cron's 6'5" - 250 at 1B. Now, there is a 1B! Unfortunately,
    the only (sporadic) chance he has been given is as a pinch-hitter which, apparently, is not
    his skill set. He was the top Minor League power hitter as an everyday first baseman, but
    he never got a chance.

    Especially when you consider that Rojas, nowhere near as talented as Cron, was given the
    chance to play everyday.
     
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    The decision was made to have Walker as the undisputed 1B of this team. That meant Cron simply wasn't going to be given the chance you felt he deserved
     
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    But it is about more than Cron getting the chance. It is about what would have been best for the team.

    A 1B with some power . . . or the best power hitter in the Minor Leagues (every time he was sent back
    down and got starter's time).

    My point of view all season concerned, as you said, "The decision was made to have Walker as the
    undisputed 1B of this team." Isn't that the definition of playing favorites?

    Imagine Marte, Escobar and Cron as our 3-4-5 hitters as the season progressed. And add to it either
    of our two (potentially) power hitting Catchers batting sixth, and not in front of the Pitcher. On a
    consistent basis. It is highly likely that our pathetic left-on-base percentage would have improved.

    Walker is not a difference maker at 1B. Lamb is not a difference maker at 1B. Not giving Cron a chance
    (and the constantly changing batting orders, with Marte sometimes hitting leadoff, following the weak
    part of the batting order) hurt the team. 30+ home runs but not nearly enough RBI's. That's the stats.

    Even without Peralta, we could have had a solid batting order with RBI power in the 3-4-5-6 slots.
    That is a good formula to reach the playoffs.
     
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    Except you are making the assumption that Cron would duplicate what he was doing in AAA in the majors over the course of the whole year and we have no way of knowing if that would have panned out that way.

    It's not as though Walker is Avila bad statistically or something so I think this notion of "playing favorites" with Walker is a bit extreme. Simply put, the organization (not just Lovullo) decided Walker was the 1B for the year and I would assume that will carry over to next year as well.
     
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    But that is my point!

    Tory would have had a way of knowing. if he had given Cron
    an opportunity to see if he could help.

    As the most consistent .500 team in the history of baseball,
    Torey certainly had nothing to lose in seeking out the best
    lineup. Rather than being locked into an "undisputed" choice
    (as you put it) early in the season.

    With Lamb out injured when Cron first came up, it would have
    made sense for Cron to start at 1B for a week, to evaluate him.

    Cron came up to the team as a starting 1B, not a pinch hitter.

    Is anyone really surprised by his stats in Reno, even as a back-
    and-forth player?

    .331 batting average. 38 home runs. 105 RBI's. 1.226 OPS in
    only 305 official AB's.

    Who in the world would not check that kind of slugger out on
    a mediocre team? Undisputed choice! Horsefeathers. Tory
    Lovullo's formula is not one for winning. Nice guy. But not a
    winner, as the record substantiates.



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