Game #146-Arizona Diamondbacks (75-70) @ NY Mets (74-70). 09/11/19

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  1. BC867

    BC867 Long time Phoenician! Contributor

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    I'll say it again. The team priority is not about winning. It is about individual stats.

    Game attendance is not what makes the D-backs investors rich. It is the television
    revenue which, I would think, is difficult to identify accurately.

    And it is about the power of the Players Union.

    It takes a confident and free-thinking ballplayer to hit the ball through the uncovered
    side of the infield with runners in scoring position vs. . . .

    Popup, strikeout, groundout into the shift, fly ball, strikeout, groundout into the shift,
    popup, strikeout, groundout into the shift, fly ball, strikeout, groundout into the shift.
    home run . . . etc.

    And its not fun for die-hard fans.
     
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    9 PLAYERS LEFT EITHER 2 OR 3
     
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    "Halfway through his pregame bullpen session, Diamondbacks lefty Robbie Ray’s worst-case scenario came to fruition on Wednesday night. The skin on his left middle finger had ripped off. The blister he thought had healed had suddenly resurfaced.

    Minutes later, Ray took the mound. He was hoping for the best. He encountered the worst."

    Here is the rest of the article:

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...dbacks-shutout-new-york-mets-road/2296149001/
     
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    He selfishly took the mound and may have been the catalyst to ending the season by only going 2/3 of an inning. Horrible.
     
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    I don't know if I'd say "selfishly" because I don't know what his motivation was (he may have been looking to do what he could to help the team), but I will say "foolishly".
     
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    'Sorry, but I join AZ Native in saying "selfishly".

    The skin "ripped off" his blister and he thought
    he could help the team by hiding it?

    No Major League pitcher is that naive. Even if he
    convinced himself, hiding it from the coaching
    staff is dishonorable.

    Robbie Ray is now a flake in my book. Also the
    manager should know his players before making
    one his "ace", and the pressure that comes with it.
     
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    Ray is what he is - a 5-inning starter, who has great stuff and strikes out a lot of batters, but isn't as good a pitcher as he should be.

    He throws way to may pitches because he doesn't have great command, and for as good as his stuff is, there are to many hard hit balls against him.

    (this is just from eyeballing it - but I think the numbers back up my assumptions)
     
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    I agree. But he should have said "NO" because of what happened to his finger while he was warming up. But maybe he feels a need to be the "ACE" even though he is not one so he is partially to blame. In his last start Torey impressed me by looking him in the eye and telling him "you need to leave, I need you for a playoff run". This time Torey (who had to know about his finger) let him start even though he knew it was the wrong move. So I put a little bit of blame on Robbie and most of the blame on Torey for not doing what was best for the team. Torey cost us a fair chance at winning this game, a much needed victory. I give Torey a lot of credit, for which I believe he has earned, but he was wrong this time.
     
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    If he didn't go, just as many guys would have been on here calling him a ***** to sit out in the heat of a pennant race because of a little blister on his finger.

    The Mets series flopped in every way, and unfortunately, it brings an end to realistic playoff contention for the team this year. I say, congratulations to the team. Virtually everyone picked them to be a disaster, and they were in the thick of the playoff race until the middle of September, even after losing Goldy, Pollack, Corbin, and Greinke. They way overachieved this year.

    They've got all they need to be great, if they can get their pitching staff back to good from the ruin it's become. They've got hitting, fielding, running, a young up-and-coming roster. Hazen and Lovullo know what they're doing for sure.
     
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    I disagree about the reaction had he not gone...at least from my standpoint. It was far worse that he went when he absolutely knew he shouldn't. If TL knew that makes it even worse...much worse.
     
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    I agree. And I don't see it as a case of "if" Torey knew.

    As manager, it was his job to find out the status of the
    blister first hand, whether Robbie volunteered it or not.

    First hand -- pardon the pun.

    Or should I say . . . if he got the finger. :)
     

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