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I know I don't want my starting power forward to have just been the third best power forward on an awful team whose weakness was its frontcourt.
Again if he was their third best PF than why was he starting over them and playing more minutes. You fabricating information doesn't make it so.
 

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Yeah - the guy played 27 minutes a game last year.

Shot 41% from 3, and had a per of 15.

If that is an end of the bench player, sign me up for a bunch of those.
Wha? Who? Did I miss something?
 

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Just 1sun trying to say that Bjelica was the 3rd best PF on the Kings and an end of the bench player.

Everyone who isn't an all-star is an end of the bench player to him. The guy has started the vast majority of the games he's played for the Kings. He's more well rounded than Bertans(though not quite as prolific as a 3pt shooter) who is likely looking for a much bigger payday than what Bjeli is making.
 

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Everyone who isn't an all-star is an end of the bench player to him. The guy has started the vast majority of the games he's played for the Kings. He's more well rounded than Bertans(though not quite as prolific as a 3pt shooter) who is likely looking for a much bigger payday than what Bjeli is making.

Do you really want a Saric clone as our starting power forward? We all saw what a disaster Saric himself was in that role, and Saric is actually the better player of the two.
 
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John Gambadoro expects the Suns to keep Saric on a multi-year contract. Not so with Baynes, Kaminsky and Diallo.

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John Gambadoro expects the Suns to keep Saric on a multi-year contract. Not so with Baynes, Kaminsky and Diallo.

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This is crazy for many reasons. We need bigs, and a couple of these guys are cheap. plus we need to get to 13 players minimum.
 

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This is crazy for many reasons. We need bigs, and a couple of these guys are cheap. plus we need to get to 13 players minimum.

Why is it crazy? It's not as though James Jones has yet proved himself capable of building a balanced roster...
 

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This is crazy for many reasons. We need bigs, and a couple of these guys are cheap. plus we need to get to 13 players minimum.
I suspect we have some plans to add players during the draft and not just rookies. We also still have two spots to fill with the MLE and the BAE. I think we are already at about 10 and we still have a rookie to add and those two spots I just mentioned. That puts us at like 13 right there.
 

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I suspect we have some plans to add players during the draft and not just rookies. We also still have two spots to fill with the MLE and the BAE. I think we are already at about 10 and we still have a rookie to add and those two spots I just mentioned. That puts us at like 13 right there.

Well, if we keep both of the point guards and Okobo, along with Saric, we have:

Paul
Booker
Bridges
Cam
Ayton
Saric
Payne
Carter
Okobo
Nader
Pick #10
MLE Player
BAE Player
????
????

It's pretty darn clear where we need help...
 

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Well, if we keep both of the point guards and Okobo, along with Saric, we have:

Paul
Booker
Bridges
Cam
Ayton
Saric
Payne
Carter
Okobo
Nader
Pick #10
MLE Player
BAE Player
????
????

It's pretty darn clear where we need help...
I have to imagine they have some front court players in mind (possibly in a trade) and could easily use the MLE and BAE to fill in PF/C depth.
 

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There are some interesting players that could go for the Veteran Min or one of the exceptions.
 

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I would be interested in trading the #10 for the right vet pf. What team is rebuilding that might have a pf fit for us.

Tucker I guess.
 
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This is crazy for many reasons. We need bigs, and a couple of these guys are cheap. plus we need to get to 13 players minimum.

Of the three I would prefer to keep Baynes but he may want more than his past $5 million plus contract.

I'm so-so about Kaminsky and Diallo. If the Suns can improve the tail end of their roster they should. Last season they needed more athletic big men.
 

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Of the three I would prefer to keep Baynes but he may want more than his past $5 million plus contract.

I'm so-so about Kaminsky and Diallo. If the Suns can improve the tail end of their roster they should. Last season they needed more athletic big men.

I'm so not on the Baynes bandwagon. Foul machine, constantly out of position. Does more harm than good.

Diallo is athletic, he just seemed lost. Maybe a 2nd year under the system along with CP3 can boost his numbers a bit.
 
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I'm so not on the Baynes bandwagon. Foul machine, constantly out of position. Does more harm than good.

Diallo is athletic, he just seemed lost. Maybe a 2nd year under the system along with CP3 can boost his numbers a bit.

Unless Chris Paul brings a player with him or the Suns can find some bargains, they could easily slip into fill in the roster mode. Suns will not have a lot of lot of money to spend. They could do worse than Baynes. He is not a player I wanted to bring back. Diallo may not get any better.
 

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Suns don't have a lot of roster fodder to do trades right now. I cannot see how they could trade for Tucker at the moment.
 

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I think those touting Tucker were hoping we could get him by trading down from 10 to 16.

And Kaminsky's contract would match up salaries. It would be a terrible move for the Suns, though. You might recall Tucker starting to become a liability on the floor in his last season here. That's nothing compared to the liability on the floor he is now.
 

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I would be OK with a return of everyone including Baynes if he would sign here, plus the 10. Thing is, would we get first half of the year Baynes, or second half of the year Baynes?
 

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Still have to create the space to make the trade. The problem is matching the salaries for a trade.

My understanding is Kaminsky could be used to help facilitate something like this. I could be wrong; haven't researched in-depth. Not sure how I would feel about this anyway. I think, even at 35, Tucker would bring some defensive clout. That said, I worry about investing in two 35-year-olds for the rotation, and I was never a fan of his offensive decision-making to be honest.
 
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I appreciated PJ Tucker while he was here but bringing him back at 35 for $8 million doesn't excite me.
 

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Don’t want PJ back. I wonder if CP can work a little magic with Ibaka and convince him to sign for $9 mil...

Serge + Halliburton/Hayes and I will officially get pumped.
 

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Don’t want PJ back. I wonder if CP can work a little magic with Ibaka and convince him to sign for $9 mil...

Serge + Halliburton/Hayes and I will officially get pumped.
We might be able to get a vet looking for a winning situation to bite on that $9 million exception, especially if a starting slot is available. Players like playing time almost as much as money.

Serge Ibaka
Montrezl Harrell
Millsap

Anyone want a Morris?
 

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