Dune (2021)(HBO Max/theaters)

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Am I the only one excited about this movie? Loved the books when I was a kid, was kind of meh on the original theatre release in 1984, but this new version looks epic.

Cast:
• Timothée Chalamet as Paul Atreides
• Rebecca Ferguson as Lady Jessica
• Oscar Isaac as Duke Leto Atreides
• Josh Brolin as Gurney Halleck
• Stellan Skarsgård as Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
• Dave Bautista as Glossu Rabban
• Stephen McKinley Henderson as Thufir Hawat
• Zendaya as Chani
• David Dastmalchian as Piter De Vries
• Chang Chen as Dr. Wellington Yueh
• Sharon Duncan-Brewster as Dr. Liet-Kynes
• Charlotte Rampling as Gaius Helen Mohiam
• Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho
• Javier Bardem as Stilgar

New Trailer:
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I'm apprehensive on it. I really want it to be a good movie. I like Villeneuve a lot as a director so that's a plus. There's just little faith on my part right now for Hollywood to make an adaptation of an existing property and stay true to it. Hopefully they do with it and it succeeds so that they can do the additional movies or a TV show to finish off the material.
 

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Dune: Director Explains Why His Adaptation Will Be Split Across Two Movies​


Denis Villeneuve has said that his Dune adaptation will be split into two movies because the world of Frank Herbert's seminal sci-fi novel is "too complex" to fit into a single feature film.

"I would not agree to make this adaptation of the book with one single movie," Villeneuve told Vanity Fair. "The world is too complex. It's a world that takes its power in details."

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I really hope that Part One does well because the second film has not been greenlit yet and the studio is waiting to see how the first film does before moving forward with Part Two.
 

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The director was not pleased when it was originally announced that Dune would also be released on the HBO Max platform...

‘Dune’ Director Denis Villeneuve Blasts HBO Max Deal​

 

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The director was not pleased when it was originally announced that Dune would also be released on the HBO Max platform...

‘Dune’ Director Denis Villeneuve Blasts HBO Max Deal​

Welp, he was wrong about the pandemic being over by the Fall. Wonder if he’s cool delaying release by another year to keep his artistic integrity of cinema in a communal viewing vehicle?
 

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Welp, he was wrong about the pandemic being over by the Fall. Wonder if he’s cool delaying release by another year to keep his artistic integrity of cinema in a communal viewing vehicle?
Directors and theater chains may have to face reality that things are not getting back to normal in the foreseeable future. Not a single movie has come close to breaking 200 million. I have been a couple times and I admit, this guy having a coughing attack in the back of the theater has made me hesitant to return but I will since I am vaccinated. Both times the theater was maybe a third full, if that, to boot. The wife and I have friends that still refuse to go.

If you are a studio, you will get more people in front of the film simultaneously releasing it in the theater and streaming until things get back to normal. It sucks because I love the theater experience but things are not looking good in terms of getting back to normal in theaters. You can't force people back to them either. It likely won't work.
 

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Directors and theater chains may have to face reality that things are not getting back to normal in the foreseeable future. Not a single movie has come close to breaking 200 million. I have been a couple times and I admit, this guy having a coughing attack in the back of the theater has made me hesitant to return but I will since I am vaccinated. Both times the theater was maybe a third full, if that, to boot. The wife and I have friends that still refuse to go.

If you are a studio, you will get more people in front of the film simultaneously releasing it in the theater and streaming until things get back to normal. It sucks because I love the theater experience but things are not looking good in terms of getting back to normal in theaters. You can't force people back to them either. It likely won't work.

To be fair, they haven't really released a good movie either. All we've really gotten are bad sequels and a too late franchise movie. Black Window should have done that but it was a dud. The national organization of theater owners blasted Disney the other other day of the way it was handled for the underperformance.* It's starting to look like it's going to be the MCU's Solo.

Godzilla vs Kong actually didn't do horribly. Domestically it was only $10m less than King of the Monsters. Internationally it comparatively crushed it doing $362m, about $90m more than KotM.` The studio has to consider that a success with it only having a $155m budget. Plus it also made whatever part of HBO+ it gets credit for.

Personally, I haven't been going to the theater for years since I have better home theater experience. I normally wait for the UHD before seeing a movie. I had always been on the "let's get simultaneous releases" bandwagon but not any more. Godzilla vs Kong killed that for me. The streaming quality was so bad compared to what the theaters and UHD got that I'm gun shy on it now. A few of the new releases, like Nobody, I waited for disc.

Surprisingly, the one movie since Godzilla that I did steam was Black Widow. The graphs that the guys put out showed it to actually be decent quality and watching it the PQ and AQ was great. It's really surprising since even the UHD discs the last few years from Disney sucked for audio. They're usually filtered at 30 Hz (BW wasn't) and they've known as having Atmouse because they hardcode the heights to either 2 or 4 channels instead of leaving them object based. So I'm hoping Disney might be turning the corner on that stuff.

*https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/19/mov...g-black-widow-in-theaters-and-streaming-.html
`https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/...the-Monsters-(2019)#tab=day_by_day_comparison
 

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Directors and theater chains may have to face reality that things are not getting back to normal in the foreseeable future. Not a single movie has come close to breaking 200 million. I have been a couple times and I admit, this guy having a coughing attack in the back of the theater has made me hesitant to return but I will since I am vaccinated. Both times the theater was maybe a third full, if that, to boot. The wife and I have friends that still refuse to go.

If you are a studio, you will get more people in front of the film simultaneously releasing it in the theater and streaming until things get back to normal. It sucks because I love the theater experience but things are not looking good in terms of getting back to normal in theaters. You can't force people back to them either. It likely won't work.

this is true, but they did keep the biggest of the biggies off the schedule. Even F9, you’re looking at a decent haul of 163 million and counting domestic. F8 barely scratched 200 domestic. Without the Rock and Brian (forgot the guy who died’s name), the series was bound to start suffering from the law of diminishing returns.

Widow just felt like yesterday’s news. It probably makes another 40 million than it would have as is, but I would have been STUNNED if it made over 300 domestic.

Quiet Place 2 probably makes a little more too, but not much more than the original.

biggest test will be Holidays time. The final Craig Bond and new Spider-Man and Top Gun 2 will be the better test of if the box office is really going to come back. If none of those break 200 million domestic, that ain’t good.
 

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this is true, but they did keep the biggest of the biggies off the schedule. Even F9, you’re looking at a decent haul of 163 million and counting domestic. F8 barely scratched 200 domestic. Without the Rock and Brian (forgot the guy who died’s name), the series was bound to start suffering from the law of diminishing returns.

Widow just felt like yesterday’s news. It probably makes another 40 million than it would have as is, but I would have been STUNNED if it made over 300 domestic.

Quiet Place 2 probably makes a little more too, but not much more than the original.

biggest test will be Holidays time. The final Craig Bond and new Spider-Man and Top Gun 2 will be the better test of if the box office is really going to come back. If none of those break 200 million domestic, that ain’t good.
Add Ghostbuster to the list as a possibility too. It was getting good buzz off of its trailer. Those four are probably the only ones with a chance and it'll depend on how covid goes between now and then. The rest of the release lineup for the year is pretty weak.

After last weekend I don't think BW gets another $40m unless they drag it out in the theaters. It dropped another 55% this weekend and only did $11.6m. It's probably going to end up in the $175-180 range.
 

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Add Ghostbuster to the list as a possibility too. It was getting good buzz off of its trailer. Those four are probably the only ones with a chance and it'll depend on how covid goes between now and then. The rest of the release lineup for the year is pretty weak.

After last weekend I don't think BW gets another $40m unless they drag it out in the theaters. It dropped another 55% this weekend and only did $11.6m. It's probably going to end up in the $175-180 range.

I doubt Ghostbusters breaks 120. I think that brand just doesn’t have a lot of value at this point because of the 2016 reboot and the fact that it’s not going the Force Awakens route making the old guys major characters who are handing off to the younger generation. The old guys are supppsed to make appearances but not to the extent Harrison Ford and Fisher did in Awakens.

And agree on Widow. It ain’t getting to 200. That said, Disney showed it made 60 million opening weekend on streaming. And after all this time, an opening weekend of 140 million combined sounds about right if it were comparable to normal times.

what I think is happening is that 75% of diehard movie fans are going opening weekend to the biggies (F9, Widow) but after that first rush, there’s still a ton of people hesistant to go to the theaters so whatever movies would have legs, pretty much have none at this point, unless they’re really good... like Quiet Place 2 had decent legs before it jumped to Paramount Plus.
 
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