Donald J. Trump: 45th POTUS

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    If Jared sticky fingers were near that bank account definitely yes.
     
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    WHAT?????? J....H.....T.....F.....C!!!!!
     
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    So, the Orange joke—in the past couple of hours— has tweeted that Joe Scarborough is a murderer, advocated Duct taping Pelosi’s mouth and called Stacey Abrhams fat.
     
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    The United States cannot have all Mail In Ballots. It will be the greatest Rigged Election in history. People grab them from mailboxes, print thousands of forgeries and “force” people to sign. Also, forge names. Some absentee OK, when necessary. Trying to use Covid for this Scam!

    Total stable genius.

    And a friend of mine shared this on her FB page and said see proof of voter fraud for all the dems. What, Trump saying something is proof?

    Who are these people that have printers that can print out mail in ballots from home? He does realize it's not a regular piece of paper right?
     
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    Meanwhile how many right wing candidates have been disqualified from the AZ Corporate Commission ballot due to improprieties on their petitions?!

    I'm sure this same individuals will harp about mail fraud or be upset that you can drop your ballot at a polling place on election day
     
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    Why, of course!
     
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    Trump Sr is a total jack wad but his son Jr is on another level. Most of us have an older relative who has some memory and brain issues and will say things they shouldn't, most of us apologize for it and try to smooth things over, not go on Twitter to the whole world reinforcing the crap our nutjob dad is tweeting or saying.
     
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    It just dawned on me..... I don't know if anyone else has addressed this, but here goes. The question has been, can Trump pardon himself? Why would he have to? Just resign on January 18th, Pence takes over and Pence pardons him.

    Of course, one question that arises is, "can he be pardoned for crimes he hasn't been accused of." But it doesn't matter. He can't be pardoned for state crimes.
     
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    He won't be convicted until well after that date. He can't be pardoned if he was never convicted of a crime.
     
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    Also a Pence pardon won’t apply to a state conviction.
     
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    You can issue a pardon after the crime was committed, but before a conviction. You cannot issue a pardon for a crime that has not yet been committed. That's from an old case in 1866 - Ex parte Garland.

    Could the President pardon himself for all crimes committed during his presidency? The Constitution is silent on it, but traditional legal thought is no. See Federalist No. 10 - No man shall be a judge in his own case. Nixon's OLC looked into it and came to the same conclusion. However, there are good-faith arguments to the contrary, so it remains an unsettled issue of law.
     
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    See previous response. To expand - Pence could pardon Trump for any crime committed, known or unknown. There is no requirement that Trump be accused of a crime to have a pardon be valid.

    Oh, and Pence could totally do that.
     
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