Donald J. Trump: 45th POTUS

Discussion in 'Politics and Religion' started by Brian in Mesa, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. DWKB

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    I’d rather hear your opinion on the policy that was enacted by the man you voted for and, as a Christian, the biblical argument his appointed AG used to justify it.

    I think it matters a little more than your take on the Time magazine cover.
     
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    Being that I went on record from day one saying Trump was a dumpster fire of a candidate who bullied his way to the nomination and that I was not a fan of him as a person (or his lame attempts at being a reality-TV star), I had hopes that he would surround himself with good people during his presidency. That hasn't happened at all. Just more of the same. Not surprised because that is politics. The swamp will never be drained. Those in power - regardless of party affiliation - are a bunch of elitists pretending to care about the common man, but in reality none of them understand or connect with any of us "little people" any longer. It's just a game and we are all a bunch of pawns being played.

    As for the policy, it seems to all revolve around the Flores settlement which specifies that migrant children cannot be held any longer than 20 days. Makes it difficult to hold a family and go through the legal process of determining asylum or not. Separating families was just a way to hold them longer and go through the process. Otherwise we just give them a court date, release them, and hope for them to appear. It has nothing to do with the bible and Sessions or anyone else using that in defense of immigration policy is just being ridiculous, IMHO.
     
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    Nonesense, Brian. It's about leverage and deterrence, Plain and simple. They've lied about it and skirted questions about it since Drumpf et al started it. Why do that if it is as simple as you suggest?
     
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    This isn’t more of the same and anybody who thinks that has their head in the sand and isn’t paying attention.
     
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    Exactly Trump is nothing like any politician we’ve seen since Adolf Hitler
     
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    Not more of the same...it's an escalation of evil policy and fascism.
     
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    What’s so funny bout peace love and understanding.


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    Trump and his group crossed a line that has never been crossed before. " whataboutism" is only an excuse to do nothing. It is a total fail, BIM. Sorry, this is even worse than your pathetic attempts to prove Trump was a better candidate than Hillary during the campaign.

    BIM, I wanted to vote for a Republican, John Kasich. So, this is not seem "lib v cons." argument I am making. The argument was who would be best for the country.

    Trump has trashed our closest allies. He's given a reach around to several of the worst dictators. The fool is taking an economy that was purring along just nicely and throws a monkey wrench at it with his moronic tariffs.

    Ah, what's the point. You will never, ever admit you made the worst choice possible. And, please, spare me you bilge about how you hated Trump all along. All your hate and criticism was directed at HRC (who would deserve it in Kasich v. HRC).

    So, congrats on being a small part of making our country the laughingstock of the planet. :sarcasm:
     
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    It's scary how easy it's been for him to spread it too. We were at the beach today, Half Moon Bay, so Ca and a fairly liberal town IMO. At the McDonalds I heard a white girl about 15 reading the sign that said 12.50 an hour saying "that's more than I make and I can speak English"(because most of the people working there were Hispanic. Her dad laughed.

    At the beach there were 3 employees cleaning out the bathrooms when we arrived, and 2 people standing there waiting "out of earshot". They were complaining "these people are too slow no wonder they can't get a better job." Of course they were Hispanic, but note they were not janitors they are kind of Park Rangers and they actually have a fairly elaborate test to pass to get hired there(I looked online once just out of curiosity during the Bush recession). I at least got some revenge on them as I walked by them to the 3 bathrooms on the backside of where they were waiting, went in and used one, and then on the way out casually said "they could probably figure out the bathrooms on the back are open."

    But Trump has made all this "ok", early on my impression was I'd rather someone be an open racist than a secret racist, at least you know who they really are. I misjudged Trump's ability to spread his hate, to divide people. As Obama said you can win an election by dividing people(and cheating) but you can't govern them.
     
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    I really can't add much more to the conversation other than to say we are on a runaway train and it's not coming back to the station anytime soon. And if it ever does, I'm afraid it may be broken beyond repair.

    This is a divided country and I do not see the answer in sight. The right wing has made it okay to tell lies, alienate our allies, embrace tyrants, hate on immigrants, blame the media, and whoever does not walk to the beat of their drum. It's the blame game. And who knows tomorrow.
     
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    I mentioned the other day driving through a small town on the way to Cache Creek Casino and people were protesting Trump there. Turns out there are 3 locations in Northern California that house migrant kids, detention camps if you will. I had no idea but one of those 3 is in the area I was driving through, it's in Woodland, CA. I was actually going through a smaller town having just passed Woodland but I guess that's why they were protesting there(it was a migrant workers office) because they knew just a few miles down the highway migrant children were in a detention camp. Not that it didn't bother me before but knowing there's one of these damn camps 2 hours away from where I live brings it closer to home for me.

    I get so tired of hearing people say "but they're illegal." So is conspiring with Russia, Israel and Cambridge Analytica to fix an election but you don't seem to care about that. So is profiting personally from being POTUS, you don't seem to care about that. So is a whole bunch of other stuff Trump and his administration is doing and you don't care about that. You're actually mad that Mueller is looking into some of the illegal activity of Trump, so why cling to the word "illegal" with migrants?

    It is stunning to me how quickly this has happened but I guess in the end it shows there were a ton of racists just waiting for someone like Trump to tell them it was ok.
     
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    It takes someone to blame for authoritarian rule to succeed. This is a lesson of history.
     
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    It's pretty simple really.
     
  15. Brian in Mesa

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    That's the candidate I wanted too.
     
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