Does This Make Sense?

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  1. Garthshort

    Garthshort Registered User

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    Bringing back Wes Hills. Or a similar type of RB, considering our trouble scoring in the Red Zone.
     
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    Not sure it will matter much as long as they keep running the goal line offense out of the shotgun. I also don't expect to see Murray under center since he hasn't taken snaps that way and I don't see that changing in the near or far future.
     
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    And you are assuming that our lack of RZ success won't necessitate any changes. I hope that's not what happens.
     
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    He played under center for a couple of snaps. One was for a play action pass.



    4:50 mark

    and 6:52
     
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    Or, or - call a running play inside the 5....
     
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    how is that gonna help when we dont even try to use the rb we already have?
     
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    lol RB isnt the issue.
     
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    Maybe but I see no reason why we can't get into the end zone with CE & DJ from a power formation (22 personnel)? The "Air Raid" works between the 20's but it's based on route concepts that close or shrink considerably once you get into the red zone, especially inside the 5 yd line. KK will figure this out I truly believe. So many things you can do out of the power formations, giving the defense things to think about. The rushing TD out of the shotgun we scored Sunday could still be used under center or in the shotgun with 22 personnel. You can always have a back leap over the top on 1st down, if it doesn't work, line up in the same formation (22 personnel) fake the hand off, let the back leap, KM keeps it & runs it in. You can use misdirection in 22 personnel, try a play on 1st down & if it doesn't work, same play & formation on 2nd down, naked bootleg keeper from KM or a pitch into the flat or one of the TE's leak out into the flat for a pass wide open. So many things we can do from a power formation 5 yd line or closer. Maybe KK doesn't trust our run blocking or it just isn't in his philosophy to run the ball? I think he will figure it out soon if he wants to win games. Scoring even one TD in one of our two games inside the 5, rather than the FG would have us at 1-1 right now.
     
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    I think people are forgetting that the Cardinals have a Rookie HC who has never coached at any level in the NFL and he is calling all of the offensive plays. Plays and game calling that haven't been battle tested in the NFL for the most part. Oh and the Cardinals have a Rookie QB running said offense.

    It's going to take some time for both KK and K1 to learn and adapt to the NFL.

    I'm sure KK has a ton of plays that look great on paper. However until they are battle tested against NFL defenses a few time, KK won't know for sure if they will be successful or if it's time to throw them onto the scrap heap. This is part of the growing pains of installing a totally new offense with a rookie coach and QB learning on the fly.
     
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    Who is Wes Hills?
     
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    What is Wes Hills better at than Johnson?
     
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    apparently he is better than david johnson per this thread lol
     
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    In preseason game 1 IIRC he made several strong runs and showed energy and didn't get taken down easily. Then we didn't see him the rest of the preseason and it turns out he had some kind of injury.

    Harry is not a fan of Hills and it looks like the FO shares this opinion.
     
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    In preseason game 1 IIRC he made several strong runs and showed energy and didn't get taken down easily. Then we didn't see him the rest of the preseason and it turns out he had some kind of injury.

    Harry is not a fan of Hills and it looks like the FO shares this opinion.
     
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    I have posted the use of 22 personnel in a number of threads....and not just on the goal line. That package would force 8 in the box and if they don’t put 8 in the box we should be able to run the ball.
     
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    Hills ran like his hair was on fire. He bulldozed his way into the line. We don’t have a back on this team that can ( or wants to) do that. He’s not a featured back but he appears to be s guy if you need a yard he will get you a yard and 1 inch.
     
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