Did I miss the news about Phil Dawson?

[Arz101]

If not, why is he still on roster at 10:34 AM today?

 

[Vacard]

Whose better on the streets right now?

 

[Arz101]

Whose better on the streets right now?

Send a message what is not acceptable is not acceptable.

You gotta look at the future. Nick Novak, Cairo Santos, Kai Forbath, #JoeFan etc. all get you 95% of same production as Dawson. And they are young may be one of them will pan out, If not what is the downside? Also, add a rookie kicker to practice squad.

Get the ball rolling!

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Send a message what is not acceptable is not acceptable.

You gotta look at the future. Nick Novak, Cairo Santos, Kai Forbath, #JoeFan etc. all get you 95% of same production as Dawson. And they are young may be one of them will pan out, If not what is the downside? Also, add a rookie kicker to practice squad.

Get the ball rolling!

Nick Novak is 37...lol

 

[Arz101]

Nick Novak is 37...lol

Oopsiees..Didn't check that. :tongue in check: 37 is a lot younger than 41 Dawson.

 

[gimpy]

Well, younger maybe, but not by a lot (in my thinking anyway).

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

Seattle fan were probably having the same conversation about Janokowski before he hit the game winner?

 

[Proximo]

Yeah, he is not getting cut this week.

In hindsight we never should have cut Catenzaro. He's not great, but he is better than dawson and a lot younger.

But that is what you get if you cut your kicker too quickly. Almost all of them go through bad streaks.

 

[Snakester]

Should have went with the kid. He did better than Dawson in the preseason. Is he available or did some other team pick him up?

 

[football karma]

Zane Gonzales is available.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Whose better on the streets right now?

I'm sure we can find lots of people who can go 0/2 with Kickoffs that rarely reach the end zone, who are cheaper.

And this should have been taken care of in the off-season after Dawson stunk last year.

 

[unseenaz]

Zane Gonzales is available.

bring him in. lost season anyways, could be a great kicker for years to come.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Whose better on the streets right now?

Sign Gritty

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[RugbyMuffin]

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The roadkill I passed by this morning.

 

[Buckybird]

Definitely should sign Zane Gonzalez to the PS & see if he learns to handle the pressure! The kid was outstanding in college & deserves the look imo.

 

[gbrim21]

All the Zane Gonzales love cracks me up. He was so bad he got dumped already. Be careful what you wish for when you say "it can't get any worse than player X" because it usually can.

Bill Barnwell wrote a great article a few years back about kickers. In baseball a player will go 2-25 over 6 games in a slump and we patiently wait for them to figure it out. Kickers may get 25 kicks all season, and we always want to fire them after 2 misses. They're sample size is tiny.

Please don't sign some loser off the street unless we feel he'll be better. Obviously Dawson didn't kick well last year and missed 2 yesterday. But you dont dump him to "send a message" until you have a backup plan. Otherwise your message is "I'm an idiot who makes irrational, emotional decisions." And for the record I want him gone but not until we find someone better. We all wanted Catanzaro gone during his slump. Now we'd welcome him back with open arms.

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[RugbyMuffin]

All the Zane Gonzales love cracks me up. He was so bad he got dumped already. Be careful what you wish for when you say "it can't get any worse than player X" because it usually can.

Bill Barnwell wrote a great article a few years back about kickers. In baseball a player will go 2-25 over 6 games in a slump and we patiently wait for them to figure it out. Kickers may get 25 kicks all season, and we always want to fire them after 2 misses. They're sample size is tiny.

Please don't sign some loser off the street unless we feel he'll be better. Obviously Dawson didn't kick well last year and missed 2 yesterday. But you dont dump him to "send a message" until you have a backup plan. Otherwise your message is "I'm an idiot who makes irrational, emotional decisions." And for the record I want him gone but not until we find someone better. We all wanted Catanzaro gone during his slump. Now we'd welcome him back with open arms.

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To be fair, if there is one thing current Cardinals fans know, is when the kicker is done.

We patiently waited for Rackers to get back on track, and did the same with Catanzaro. You want to watch the games lost by these guys go past 3 years ?

Damned if you do, Damned if you don't

 

[Arz101]

To be fair, if there is one thing current Cardinals fans know, is when the kicker is done.

We patiently waited for Rackers to get back on track, and did the same with Catanzaro. You want to watch the games lost by these guys go past 3 years ?

Damned if you do, Damned if you don't

Sure it was the right thing to so with Cat man and Rackers.
What is the point of patiently waiting on 41 year old Dawson? In a lost season, don;t you start planning ahead?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Should have went with the kid. He did better than Dawson in the preseason. Is he available or did some other team pick him up?

Kicking for the Raiders now

 

[nationsrj]

Matt McCrane is the kicker for the Raiders signed September 25.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Should have went with the kid. He did better than Dawson in the preseason. Is he available or did some other team pick him up?

He hit the game winner for the Raiders yesterday.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I said in several posts, that we should have kept McCrane... Almost everyone here said, Dawson was a known commodity, and you can't trust a rookie kicker.

That rookie kicker had a game winning kick for the Raiders... and continues to kick the ball through the back of the endzone... Meanwhile Dawson is getting ready to shoot Blu Emu commercials with Mike Ditka and Johnny Bench.

 

[sdscard4]

The feeling I had yesterday when Dawson walked out was.....he's gonna miss this. That's when you know it's time to move on. I've had this feeling since last year...I bet all of you had the same feeling

 

[gbrim21]

Sure it was the right thing to so with Cat man and Rackers.
What is the point of patiently waiting on 41 year old Dawson? In a lost season, don;t you start planning ahead?

Planning ahead for what? Kickers aren't QB's, they don't need to be groomed or learn a playbook. If someone out there is better then go sign him and dump Dawson. If the new guy is the same or worse all you're doing is adding on dead salary based on a dumb emotional decision.

Dawson is currently a below average kicker. I don't care how old he is, history has shown this is a 2-3 year rental position 90% of the time in the NFL. Go find a better kicker and I'm on board, just don't get new for the sake of new.

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[Arz101]

Planning ahead for what? Kickers aren't QB's, they don't need to be groomed or learn a playbook. If someone out there is better then go sign him and dump Dawson. If the new guy is the same or worse all you're doing is adding on dead salary based on a dumb emotional decision.

Dawson is currently a below average kicker. I don't care how old he is, history has shown this is a 2-3 year rental position 90% of the time in the NFL. Go find a better kicker and I'm on board, just don't get new for the sake of new.

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Again, what does a 0-4 team lose when they yank a non-performing kicker?

Why does anyone care about spending 0.5% of salary cap on a player to see if it will work or not.

There are no reps like game reps. So get a new guy in and hold his feet to the fire and see if he can handle it when it is clear Dawson is not your future.