Derek Jeter and Larry Walker elected to HOF

[Dback Jon]

Breaking

 

[GuernseyCard]

Great for Larry 5 tool.

 

[GatorAZ]

I do think Walker was incredible in his prime but in before Bonds is writers picking and choosing who used and didn’t.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I do think Walker was incredible in his prime but in before Bonds is writers picking and choosing who used and didn’t.

True and Bonds will never be in my Hall of Fame and Hammering Hank is the true HR king.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Walker elected to Hall of Fame on final ballot; Jeter elected on first https://www.tsn.ca/1.1430942

 

[GatorAZ]

True and Bonds will never be in my Hall of Fame and Hammering Hank is the true HR king.

Ruth is my HR king because Aaron used pharmaceutical grade stimulants.

 

[Raindog]

Larry Walker, a HOFer? Sorry, not seeing it. Yes, he had a few big statistical seasons... playing at Coors. Other than that, he basically had Dwight Evans' career, which never got any HOF consideration even though it was primarily in a dead ball era.

I guess MLB is getting desperate for people to put in the Hall these days, what with all the careers tainted by the steroid era.

 

[Dback Jon]

Walker is the first Colorado Rockies player in the HOF

 

[GuernseyCard]

Ruth is my HR king because Aaron used pharmaceutical grade stimulants.

Bennies add nothing to actual performance and they weren't illegal.

 

[GatorAZ]

Bennies add nothing to actual performance and they weren't illegal.

The NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, Olympics and UCI disagree.

 

[GuernseyCard]

The NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, Olympics and UCI disagree.

They weren't in the 1950's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's.

 

[GatorAZ]

They weren't in the 1950's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's.

What does that have to do with not being PED’s? Steroids weren’t banned until 1993 and players still knew when tests where. MLB didn’t care until Canseco outed eceryone.

 

[GuernseyCard]

What does that have to do with not being PED’s? Steroids weren’t banned until 1993 and players still knew when tests where. MLB didn’t care until Canseco outed eceryone.

There is no evidence that Hank Aaron was fueled by Amphetamines, only that they were widely available.

 

[GatorAZ]

There is no evidence that Hank Aaron was fueled by Amphetamines, only that they were widely available.

He admitted he tried them in his autobiography early 30 years ago... but because baseball is so protective of records that they give everyone before 2005 the benefit of the doubt and everyone after pretty much blackballed from history.

 

[devilalum]

Walker’s career BA at Coors was .348.
On the road he was .278.

All of his stats are skewed like this. Walker was a great player but would his stats be Hall worthy if he played his career at sea level?


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[GatorAZ]

Walker’s career BA at Coors was .348.
On the road he was .278.

All of his stats are skewed like this. Walker was a great player but would his stats be Hall worthy if he played his career at sea level?


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Batting average is only one stat. He still had impressive numbers on the road during his prime. He also was getting on base at an elite level near the end in St Louis. Kinda surprised he retired...

To answer your question he doesn’t get in without the power spike numbers he had in Colorado.

 

[WildBB]

Aaron didn't need them even if he tried them. He was super consistent in his career with no aberration years in there.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Walker’s career BA at Coors was .348.
On the road he was .278.

All of his stats are skewed like this. Walker was a great player but would his stats be Hall worthy if he played his career at sea level?


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But, of interest, 29 of his 49 hrs in his MVP year were hit on the road

 

[Ronin]

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[Shaggy]

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Not understanding the numbers on the right. What do they mean?

How many on a ballot get in per year, 2? So Schilling didn't make it this year?

 

[AZCB34]

Not understanding the numbers on the right. What do they mean?

How many on a ballot get in per year, 2? So Schilling didn't make it this year?

Number on the right should be number of years on the ballot. There is no set number that can make it each year. Any player over 75% is in.

 

[Ronin]

Here is a better look at the pic.

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[GuernseyCard]

Not understanding the numbers on the right. What do they mean?

How many on a ballot get in per year, 2? So Schilling didn't make it this year?

On the right is number of years on the ballot. After 10 you move to a possible selection to the Hall by the Veterans Committee.

You need to be on 75% of the ballots to get in.

Looks good for Schilling next year.

Clemens / Bonds = hard to tell.

 

[AZCrazy]

Who the hell did NOT vote for Jeter?

 

[Ronin]

Who the hell did NOT vote for Jeter?

The same voter who voted for J.J. Putz.