Deandre Hopkins Suspended Six Games

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Sudafed is on the banned substances list.

Not all Sudafed is pseudoephedrine.
And not all pseudoephedrine is Sudafed.

You can buy Sudafed nasal decongestant that's phenylephrine. You know the stuff they sell over the counter that doesn't actually work. Everybody buys it though because they see the Sudafed name, then wonder why they're still dripping snot after taking half the box.

If you need something to actually dry up your sinuses, your only choice is pseudoephedrine, which they sell behind the counter, so they can take your DL and put you on the meth watch list. I don't buy the Sudafed version though. Walmart brand is half the price and works the same.

I think it's kind of silly to have pseudoephedrine on the banned list. It's the only decongestant that works. It is a stimulant and it will keep you up if you take a few. But not to the level of Adderall. I think it gets on the list because of its association with meth. Same with ephedrine. Effects are very similar except not a decongestant. They both live somewhere between caffeine and real speed.

 

[oaken1]

Well Hop is a cheater like PP and I don't respect or like the behavior, but still like the man well enough. Little I really know of them.
I mean it's like they both are premier elite pro bowl players that many are trying to catch up to and look up to them! they feel the need to cheat?

I'm a disabled veterans and take prednisone steroid regularly but not constantly for mobility, to be able to like walk and wipe my own az and fish. I use to be kind of a bad az, but we didn't cheat physically in the military even against the USSR , no rocky 4 in my unit , that I know of.

If I was downed, I might consider it in war but not a game. We did have an issued gallon jar of speed in case war broke out, sleep was not on the menu for sappers.

Only check we wrote was for the amount up to including our life to protect the American constitution!
And I don't want a fair fight militarily, I want overwhelming advantage !

But I don't respect Brady or Sean Payton's cheating either. Sean Peyton was an NFL HC suspended for a year with a hometown movie out - poor him had to coach a kids team - screw him , doesn't deserve to sniff the HOF- and I don't forgive Brady either !

With the minions of hard working, hard playing , straight shooters with great character being scorned by their self centered, dishonest, resentment and fears!
Like the ancient cardinals fight song cheered - fair and square! Don't expect others to agree - but my 2 cents.

Uh.......yeah!


I think.......

 

[oaken1]

Not all Sudafed is pseudoephedrine.
And not all pseudoephedrine is Sudafed.

You can buy Sudafed nasal decongestant that's phenylephrine. You know the stuff they sell over the counter that doesn't actually work. Everybody buys it though because they see the Sudafed name, then wonder why they're still dripping snot after taking half the box.

If you need something to actually dry up your sinuses, your only choice is pseudoephedrine, which they sell behind the counter, so they can take your DL and put you on the meth watch list. I don't buy the Sudafed version though. Walmart brand is half the price and works the same.

I think it's kind of silly to have pseudoephedrine on the banned list. It's the only decongestant that works. It is a stimulant and it will keep you up if you take a few. But not to the level of Adderall. I think it gets on the list because of its association with meth. Same with ephedrine. Effects are very similar except not a decongestant. They both live somewhere between caffeine and real speed.

They changed the ingredients when pseodoephedrine got scheduled

 

[Jetstream Green]

Uh.......yeah!


I think.......

I still cannot fully latch on to dumping on Hopkins because if I were to screw up my knee, well I will probably be getting some kind of steroid shot. I do not see Hopkins getting that 'PED' to outperform his opponent, but to simply be able to walk and rehab. Just seems to me totally ironic that in the most physical sport on the planet players cannot get what the average citizen can get

 

[CFLredzoned]

They changed the ingredients when pseodoephedrine got scheduled

Right. And that's why people still associate Sudafed with pseudoephedrine. It was good branding by them at the time. Kind of link bandage and Bandaid.

 

[bankybruce]

I still cannot fully latch on to dumping on Hopkins because if I were to screw up my knee, well I will probably be getting some kind of steroid shot. I do not see Hopkins getting that 'PED' to outperform his opponent, but to simply be able to walk and rehab. Just seems to me totally ironic that in the most physical sport on the planet players cannot get what the average citizen can get

Well said!

 

[BigRedRage]

I still cannot fully latch on to dumping on Hopkins because if I were to screw up my knee, well I will probably be getting some kind of steroid shot. I do not see Hopkins getting that 'PED' to outperform his opponent, but to simply be able to walk and rehab. Just seems to me totally ironic that in the most physical sport on the planet players cannot get what the average citizen can get

Agree 100%

but, he said "I never took anything, I will find what happened, blah blah".. If he said, yeah, I got a rehab shot because I couldnt play, it would be a different story.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Agree 100%

but, he said "I never took anything, I will find what happened, blah blah".. If he said, yeah, I got a rehab shot because I couldnt play, it would be a different story.

I agree partly with what you say too. I think the problem with being a fan is that we really do not know what the substance was at the moment

 

[BigRedRage]

I agree partly with what you say too. I think the problem with being a fan is that we really do not know what the substance was at the moment

I dont really care what he took if it was for rehab. They should be able to take steroids for rehab. its what they are for.

 

[football karma]

I think it's kind of silly to have pseudoephedrine on the banned list.

back in the day -- certain players would take lots of sudafed for the speed like effects

Dexter Manley was one. I think Bill Romanowski was another

 

[RON_IN_OC]

back in the day -- certain players would take lots of sudafed for the speed like effects

Dexter Manley was one. I think Bill Romanowski was another

Not a whole lot different than MLB players taking "greenies". Those were similar and were available by the handful in clubhouses. Dexter Manley was into more than just sudafed, though...he had a coca-cola problem, too, iirc.

 

[Jetstream Green]

back in the day -- certain players would take lots of sudafed for the speed like effects

Dexter Manley was one. I think Bill Romanowski was another

Lawrence Taylor said screw that, and went full cocaine on the field at times

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Lawrence Taylor said screw that, and went full cocaine on the field at times

I know a lot of football players use to take something called “mini-thins,” I believe.

 

[GatorAZ]

You think these guys aren’t “cheating” when they put their bodies through car accidents every Sunday? The dumb ones get caught.

 

[THESMEL]

You think these guys aren’t “cheating” when they put their bodies through car accidents every Sunday? The dumb ones get caught.

yes i think most are not cheating