Deandre Ayton discussion

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Because he had his best years here after signing as a free agent. Sure, we drafted him originally but didn't develop him. He was our best free agent signing but not best draft pick.
I would argue he was both. Two MVP’s and the heart of a dominant 5-6 year run. Idk what “development” has to do with it.
 

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I would argue he was both. Two MVP’s and the heart of a dominant 5-6 year run. Idk what “development” has to do with it.

That would be like saying Kobe is the best draft pick in Hornets history. He was drafted by them after all.

Obviously Nash wasn't viewed as a great or valuable pick early on since we traded him away. Saying he's our best pick ignores his first decade in the league almost where he was just a borderline All-Star.
 

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That would be like saying Kobe is the best draft pick in Hornets history. He was drafted by them after all.

Obviously Nash wasn't viewed as a great or valuable pick early on since we traded him away. Saying he's our best pick ignores his first decade in the league almost where he was just a borderline All-Star.
I agree with you, but I don't think Kobe is a good example. Kobe wasn't drafted with the intention of ever playing for the Hornets, but Nash was even though he didn't amount to much until after he was traded.
 

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My memory of Nash in Phoenix is that he was well thought of but he didn't want to play behind Kidd forever and was unwilling to make the full time move to shooting guard. So we accommodated him and traded him for a decent package that eventually led to Shawn Marion.
 

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I agree with you, but I don't think Kobe is a good example. Kobe wasn't drafted with the intention of ever playing for the Hornets, but Nash was even though he didn't amount to much until after he was traded.
How about when we drafted Rondo with the 21st pick? That was a pretty good find, wasn’t it?
 

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How about when we drafted Rondo with the 21st pick? That was a pretty good find, wasn’t it?
And immediately traded him to Boston right? I feel like it only counts if you draft the player and hang onto him with the intent of developing him for your own team.
 

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That would be like saying Kobe is the best draft pick in Hornets history. He was drafted by them after all.

Obviously Nash wasn't viewed as a great or valuable pick early on since we traded him away. Saying he's our best pick ignores his first decade in the league almost where he was just a borderline All-Star.
You’re overthinking this. Nash was drafted by the Suns (not a draft day trade away) and had his best years here.
 

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The Suns didn't draft Nash to trade him so he counts in my book.
 

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I'm not going to debate this now. We can discuss it more in its own thread later. Ayton was a the right pick, that's what is most important right now.
 

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My memory of Nash in Phoenix is that he was well thought of but he didn't want to play behind Kidd forever and was unwilling to make the full time move to shooting guard. So we accommodated him and traded him for a decent package that eventually led to Shawn Marion.

I'm glad the draft pick received from the Mavericks in the Nash trade turned into Shawn Marion. Otherwise that was a really bad trade.
 

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That would be like saying Kobe is the best draft pick in Hornets history. He was drafted by them after all.

Obviously Nash wasn't viewed as a great or valuable pick early on since we traded him away. Saying he's our best pick ignores his first decade in the league almost where he was just a borderline All-Star.

and you can say that if Kobe player a couple years for the Hornets then left but comeback to win 2 MVP’s for the Hornets
 

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I would argue he was both. Two MVP’s and the heart of a dominant 5-6 year run. Idk what “development” has to do with it.
I agree. He was both. We didn’t give up on him he was a guy piece in trading for a HOFer.
 

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That would be like saying Kobe is the best draft pick in Hornets history. He was drafted by them after all.

Obviously Nash wasn't viewed as a great or valuable pick early on since we traded him away. Saying he's our best pick ignores his first decade in the league almost where he was just a borderline All-Star.
No bc the hornets weren’t drafting him for themselves.
 

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That would be like saying Kobe is the best draft pick in Hornets history. He was drafted by them after all.

Obviously Nash wasn't viewed as a great or valuable pick early on since we traded him away. Saying he's our best pick ignores his first decade in the league almost where he was just a borderline All-Star.

Nash was actually projected to go as high as 4th in that draft, but the Grizzlies selected Antonio Daniels instead.

In my opinion, the Suns' only draft steals even comparable to Nash are Walter Davis, Larry Nance, Michael Finley, Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire and Devin Booker.
 

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I agree. He was both. We didn’t give up on him he was a guy piece in trading for a HOFer.

We didn't trade Nash for a HOFer. We traded him for the draft rights to Pat Garrity, plus Bubba Wells, Martin Muursepp and a future first round pick.
 
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