Confederate Memorials: Confronting Difficult History - National Trust for Historic Preservation

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  1. Bert

    Bert Walkin' on Sunshine

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    Seattle would have a statue of Lenin... lol There's no reason for that to exist.

    This is an opportunity that I keep talking about.

    The left should go; Ok you're right lets tear it down. We'll help you then you help us tear the Confed ones down.

    Pick your battles. I keep saying the same thing about congress. When Trump introduces a bill that is harmless (If that ever happens) they should jump on it and 'support' it.

    You've got to start practicing cooperation at some point instead of just preaching it. Plus then when election time comes and Trump says THE LEFT NEVER SUPPORTED ME! You can be like, ahhha! Untrue, remember the SB2389203 bill where we supported adding Fuji water drinking fountains to all 4 seasons resort beaches? We totally supported you! :p



    100% accurate. Remember when Obama came here and there were all those idiots walking around with Assault rifles as this stupid intimidation tactics? The cops were all; Hey that's their right! (which is true)

    I wonder what would happen if a group of BLM protesters showed up at the Trump rally armed to the teeth.
     
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    MrYeahbut 4 Food groups: beans, chili, cheese, bacon Contributor

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    Hey, watch it there buddy. My dad worked for the BLM back in the day!

    Oh wait, that was the Bureau of Land Management.


    :)
     
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    There are too many initial abbreviations out there for my liking. BLM will always primarily mean, Bureau of Land Management in my book.

    Your dad's legacy is safe with me. ;)
     
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    good luck with that
     
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    Don't know if this has been posted but it's a doozy




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    Sometimes you find yourself calling slavery a good thing when you're a paid Trump supporter.

    The video of the exchange is contained in the story in case you think the Daily Beast's reporting on it is too biased.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/katrin...usly-awful-attempt-to-defend-trump?yptr=yahoo

    On the other side was Wendy Osefo, the left-leaning half of Fox & Friends’ most devastating segment the week before, who pushed back fairly gently against Pierson, saying the statues belonged in museums, not on state grounds.

    But it was this comment from Pierson that caught Osefo’s attention: “It absolutely deserves a place, because bad history is still good history for this country.”

    “Slavery is good history?” Osefo asked in disbelief.

    “Considering where we are today! Where we are today! Absolutely!” she said.

    “Slavery is good history? Absolutely? Oh, wow,” Osefo shot back.

    When Pierson argued that American children wouldn’t know “how special and how wonderful” this country is without the Civil War, Osefo asked, “How special slavery is? You know how many people died?”

    All host Ainsley Earhardt could do is try to get between them with general platitudes like “it’s clearly a heated topic” and “no one is racist, no one believes in racism or bigotry” that don’t seem quite as universal as they used to.
     
  9. UncleChris

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    Courtesy of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, no doubt...

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    False comparison, anyone?
     
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    Linderbee Let's GO, CARDINALS! Contributor

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    Yeah, let's build a replica of Auschwitz in the middle of Poland and see how well that flies. What a stupid comparison.
     
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    Completely false. A statue of Robert E. Lee proudly riding his horse is far from a reminder of what the South was back then -- a nest of traitors. Those kind of memorials are celebrations, not reminders. They have no place anywhere.

    Put a statue of Hitler outside the Reichstag saluting proudly--yeah, see how that gets received by the German people.
     
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    Yup - a similar memorial in the south would be Slave Market, or Slave quarters, etc.



    The equiv to the Lee statue would be a statue of Hitler, Himmler, or the Commander of the Concentration Camp
     
  13. MigratingOsprey

    MigratingOsprey Thank You Paul!

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    My other favorite is the usage of the statue of liberty..... You know, this thing

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    These fake tough guys are what bother me the most about all of this. Bunch of basement-dwellers buying gear off the internet and "protecting" their rights. I wonder how many actually served? Or, how many just spend 20 hours a day lurking on alt-right message boards? This is their version of cosplay, I guess. Only much more dangerous.
     
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    ajcardfan I see you. Contributor

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    Well, it is there and it can be visited. But, they aren't putting up statues of Rudlof Hoess and Heinrich Himmler and saying it celebrates their "heritage".
     

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