Colin Cowherd - “I’d Take Dwayne Haskins Over Kyler Murray”

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  1. DVontel

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    Are they really?
     
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    Offensively Atlanta is much better. Atlanta is 7th is total yards per game compared to giants at 21. Points per game not as big of a gap but still better.

    Defensively both are horrible, but Atlanta has actually allowed less total yards per game. Points per game giants are slightly better. Defensively basically a wash.

    Long story short, yes I think it is reasonable to say Atlanta is better than the giants. But they both are pretty bad.

    Edit: I suppose you could make the case that with Barkley and Engram healthy now, their offense will be better.
     
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    even with them back, Atlanta is better. Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley are both way better than the Giants WRs. Matt Ryan is way better than Daniel Jones. Engram and Hooper are likely a wash. Barkley has the edge, but Devante Freeman is still very good.
     
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    You lost all credibility when you said Engram and Hooper are a wash. Engram is the second best TE in the league behind Kelce.


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    Giants OLine >Falcons OLine
    Giants DLine > Falcons DLine
     
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    If the giants played the falcons on a neutral field I would be surprised if the falcons weren’t favored. But, yeah, we’re talking about who is like the 28th best team in the league...
     
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    We got a shot if Jones is really off.

    If he's kept clean like Kyle Allen we'd be in trouble. Jones is very accurate when kept clean.

    There might be rain so they might want to just pound us with Barkley.

    Kyler is going to have maintain his level of play from last week.
     
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    Cbus, not surprising that he picked the Giants, but VERY SURPRISING that he thought they would destroy us. Or anyone for that matter. They also have a rookie QB, who I think is pretty good, but Vegas, who knows a lot more than me or CC, pegs the Giants as three point favorites.
     
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    FWIW the giants are the most picked team in the westgate supercontest which is the biggest NFL gambling contest in the country(winner gets over $1.4m). The next being the rams and SF


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    If I'm coaching the Cardinal Team , I would much prefer to be under estimated than be over hyped . I like what the pundits are throwing out there !
     
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    I agree. There is no pressure on the dog
     
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    fine -- but overall offense? Atlanta's WRs are way, way more dangerous than the Giants. Ryan is way, way better than Jones.

    the Giants are a bottom 10 offense in yards/game. Atlanta is a top 10.

    both have bad defenses
     
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    Why are you ignoring the trenches?
     
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    General rule of thumb - There is a point where a "competant" QB either sinks to mediocrity or develops a skill set that elevates him into the Very Good category (as in Tom Brady, Eli Manning or Matt Ryan).

    Will Jones grow into an elite QB? or will he fade away? Could go either way.
     
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    I would think that those would factor into the overall offensive and defensive numbers he quoted. The o-line and d-line play on offense and defense.
     

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