Cards are bringing in and intend to sign Prince Amukamara

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    He was on McLaurin for most of his catches and his TD. Watch it. He didn't shadow Golladay, he was mostly on Jones and he gave up 100+ yards and a TD to Lockett. But sure he's All Pro.

    He had a good game vs DK, but otherwise has been well below All pro level.
     
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    Attributing all of the 100+ yards by McLaurin to PP21 is exaggerating to make a point, and being part of a "D" that largely shuts down an opponent is a plus, not a meh.

    That said: I don't think he's All-Pro at this point.
     
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    Kirkpatrick was on Lockett...watch the film and even listen to Michaels and Collinsworth calling him out, because he appeared to be playing hurt and not doing a great job of covering Lockett.


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    Kirkpatrick is a liability, in every games, he put some effort but really struggle to stick with a receiver
    Peterson performance has been up and down, after one good game we can't forget some mediocre games he had, but this is a problem for great part of the cornerbacks not named Ramsey, Humphries and few others
    Peterson is still a good one
    He is always been good against big receivers but had more problems covering quickest and shifty guys
     
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    Maybe not all, but most. He shadowed him most of the game. Had a couple of snaps on Kirkpatrick.

     
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    P2 was on Lockett for the 40 yarder the very first play of the game and the "moon shot" at the end of the half for the TD.

    You can watch them here interspersed with some of his DK coverage

     
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    P2’s coverage on their catches was great.

    He is a massive asset. DK didn’t have a game with less than 90 yards before last week. He was less effective than Isabella.
     
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    The coverage on Lockett was good by p21, he just made two crazy catches
     
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    I never said otherwise, but then everyone is judging his coverage of Metcalf by how much yardage Metcalf didn't have. But he gets a pass on yardage on Lockett because they were good passes. Maybe by the same token the passes to DK were bad? Certainly the interception was bad as Metcalf was open and the ball well well overthrown.

    Peterson had his best game vs Seattle for sure, but he's been far from All Pro level overall. Considering all his off season talk about bouncing back and showing he's still the man it's taken 7 games to really do anything.

    All I'm saying is, can't we have some nuance? The P2 threads and the game threads are full of people saying how average P2 has been. He has 1 game where Metcalf under performs and hes "All pro".

    This whole discussion today was brought on by someone picking up a 16 days old comments from the P2 discussion basically trying to say "Well weren't you wrong, look at him vs DK. He's an All Pro". No he's not. 1 game doesn't change anything.

    Lets see how he does vs Diggs when we play the Bills, DK and Lockett in game 2, Woods and Kupp when we play the Rams. Then we can talk.
     
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    If Wilson didn't overthrown peterson was in position to close the gap easily
     
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    Metcalf admitted after the game that pick was his fault. He stopped and was trying to set up for a sideline catch but Wilson was already throwing it towards the corner of the endzone, which apparently is what he's supposed to do in that scenario. If you watch the replay the reason DK is "open" is he stopped the route.

    It was a bad throw in the sense that PP was able to catch it inbounds, it should have been where if DK doesn't catch it, nobody can.

    PP is not nearly as good as he used to be, but he played great against DK and he had good coverage on Lockett. The 2 throws were perfect the 2 catches were great. The TD also on that play it was Baker not PP in coverage, for whatever reason Baker stopped, I think he thought PP had the better angle and he wanted to get out of his way.
     
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    Peterson is not the problem. Why the hell are we talking about something which is not the problem during mid season when this thread is about the value of the Pauper Amukamara? The second CB situation is mediocre, but that's a Cardinal constant every year it seems. So basically, we have to ask ourselves... did we get a solid mediocre guy or did we get someone who sucks lol
     
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    Lockett made some ridiculous catches too, on plays he was well covered. I though that the game looked over on the first play. Lockett makes a wild one handed grab for a 50 yard gain. And never stopped..

    Let's look at moving Murphy up to the big time and give him CB2 like was always intended.
     
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    Not just no. Let him stay where he is thriving.
     
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    Let's not. Murphy is unable to play the outside and never has shown to me that he really can. What he can be is a great nickel back and he better be great for a second rounder
     
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